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Old 03-03-09, 11:35 PM
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New Miyata 1000...new to touring: some Q's

Hi All,

I have been planning a bike touring trip in BC for about a year and also looking for a touring bike to ride all the while -

well, I came across a Miyata 1000 today on CL so I went for it.

I got it for a great price ($200) but it definitely needs some work...some of the parts are a bit rusted though the frame, fork and wheels look to be in good shape.

My question is mainly this: before I take my touring trip this summer (about 1000km) is there anything besides regular maintenance that I should consider? AKA, changing to 700c wheels, upgrading the crank, etc.

The bike is all original in the drivetrain area - triple Sakae SR Axel cranks, Suntour derailers, Suntour hubs...the only thing changed was an upgrade to the bar-end shifters.

I want to be sure I'm well equipped for the long haul.

Here is a bad pic, but a pic nonetheless...thanks!

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Old 03-04-09, 07:07 AM
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Nice score! Better photos, please! Especially of the fork; I don't want to sound alarmist, but there's something about the angle of the fork in the photo that I don't like... it's probably just the photo.

With a Miyata 1000, you're basically dealing with the best equipment available when it was new, so "upgrading" isn't quite the right term. You can modernize, though. A modern crank will have ramps/pins to make shifting smoother. A modern freehub/cassette arrangement will have that and more gear options. 700c rims have more and better tire options. Whether any of these are actually necessary, however, is debatable.

I would suggest you start with cleaning, lubing, adjusting, and getting to know the bike. Don't change anything until you've got it working as well as possible and found it unsatisfactory.
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If it is an 81 it would have come stock with a 5 speed 14-28 freewheel with 120mm spacing between the rear drop outs. It also would have come stock with a half-step plus granny set up with 52-47-34 chainrings. I think the lack of a serious low gear is probably one of the biggest knocks on the Miyata 1000, but that is something you can change easy enough. I believe it would have had suntour cyclone which should work fine for a lot of miles, but hard to say how much it has been used to this point.

If you stay with a 5 speed freewheel, then your best bet would be the IRD 13-32 from Harris. I'm not a fan of half-step plus granny so I'd probably change the chainrings to 46-36-24 or something like that, but many people back in the day were happy campers with half step plus granny. At the very least I think you'll want a smaller granny ring.

But I completely agree with the above poster who suggested cleaning, lubing, overhauling bearings, and ride it as is for awhile before you change anything.
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Wow, good score, I'd call up the guy you bought her from and ask if he has the racks stashed somewhere in the garage. I'd bet with a good rebuilding she wouldn't need much other than what you want updated. My 1981 version needs a smaller chainring on the triple for loaded touring. The Sugino Triple from Velo Orange will soon be on my bike.
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Glad a local BFer got that one, it will really clean up to a be a nice bike. You would have had competition from me if it had been a size larger
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Hi,

Yes, it's just the photo - the fork is fine. But, I will definitely take some more pics this weekend when I get a chance to get it out in the sun.

I already have a nice new pair of hand-built Mavic Open Pro wheels I was thinking about putting on the 1000 - they won't be great for heavy touring but would be great for long rides with light gear. The Open Pros have a 7 speed cassette on them.

I'll get it all spiffed up first and then see what's needed...I'll probably have some more questions!

Oh, and the original owner already changed to bar-end shifters and lowered the gearing - it starts with 47...
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If you change to 700c wheels, and you have 27" wheels now (I was under the impression that 1000's came with 700c?) then keep your original brake calipers- they will have enough adjustment range. Newer calipers don't, I've heard.
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I've heard that, too - it does currently have 27" wheels.
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Just an FYI, the One Thousand has cantilever brakes, not calipers...............
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My suggestion is clean and repack all the bearings, check and adjust the brakes and dérailleurs, replace the tires and chain, if needed, true the wheels and ride it as is. I have Miyata 610 of the same vintage. I replaced the shifters with a set of suntour barcons and replaced the brake levers with a newer set of cane creek levers (and, of course, added a B17 saddle). Other than that, its original and I love it. The old sun tour dérailleurs are bomb proof. I happen to like the half step/ grannny front rings. The half step setup allows you to get more usable gears out of the 5 gear freewheel. It takes a little getting used to, but it's a neat setup...you just find yourself shifting the front up and down more to get the half steps rather than the rear. The only other thing I did to mine this year was I replaced the 12-28 freewheel with a 12-34 (that's the largest the rear dérailleur will handle). This will give you a 36-34 low gear combo (maybe 34-34 on the 1000). You can find the original parts specs for your bike here:

https://www.miyatacatalogs.com/

and you can find new old stock freewheels for this bike on eBay. Also, there's absolutely nothing wrong with 27 inch wheels. You can get a set of Pasela Tourguard tires for it (as well as other brands). Enjoy it. It's a great find!

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