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Old 03-23-20, 03:22 PM
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Need help building bike.

What's up guys I'm trying to build my DeRosa road bike. I just need some help deciding what parts to use. I guess I'm looking for modern parts on this bike if possible. Any recommendations is much appreciated. As far as how much I'm willing to spend is something good, sturdy, just not too fancy.

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The frame size is 58cm c to c and the top tube is 58cm c to c.
Head tube is 6 3/8".
The steerer tube threading is English/ISO/Italian (25.4mm x 24TPI).

The seat post diameter is 27.2mm.


Back spacing is 126mm.
BB threading is 36 x 24 Italian and has been faced and chased.


Thanks for the help!
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Old 03-23-20, 03:27 PM
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If you want a modern build, you'll likely want to spread that frame to 128 so it can take a 130 mm rear wheel. Other than that any campy silver group would look good on that bike.
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How modern? Is just integrated shift/brake levers enough, or are you looking to go to electronic shifting? If it's just integrated levers, how many speeds?
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How modern? Is just integrated shift/brake levers enough, or are you looking to go to electronic shifting? If it's just integrated levers, how many speeds?
I guess integrated shift/brake levers are enough.
as far as speeds not sure either.
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Originally Posted by Sobeisdead View Post
I guess integrated shift/brake levers are enough.
as far as speeds not sure either.
These are questions only you can answer - LOL.

Is this a go-fast bike, or something a little more relaxed? You will need to think about gearing, which will be largely based on the kind of riding you will be doing. What range cassette will you want? Double or triple chainrings? These choices will affect lever and derailleur choices. Are you intending to build the bike with just one make/model of components (as much as possible), or are you okay with a mixture of stuff? Wheels? Tires?

Budget will be the big determining factor.

Personally, I could see building an older DeRosa frame with 10-speed Campy Record, and some medium-profile wheels.
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Originally Posted by Eric F View Post
These are questions only you can answer - LOL.

Is this a go-fast bike, or something a little more relaxed? You will need to think about gearing, which will be largely based on the kind of riding you will be doing. What range cassette will you want? Double or triple chainrings? These choices will affect lever and derailleur choices. Are you intending to build the bike with just one make/model of components (as much as possible), or are you okay with a mixture of stuff? Wheels? Tires?

Budget will be the big determining factor.

Personally, I could see building an older DeRosa frame with 10-speed Campy Record, and some medium-profile wheels.

Ok so the only thing I really wanted on the bike was a set of HED jet 9 rims. So yes maybe a little more on the faster side than casual. And I don't mind having mixed parts. I ride more on the fixie/track side of things that's why I'm not too sure.

I currently have a Cinelli mash with a Rear fixed Enve wheel, rotor cranks, front spin mtb trispoke with some raceface longbars.
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Originally Posted by Sobeisdead View Post
Ok so the only thing I really wanted on the bike was a set of HED jet 9 rims. So yes maybe a little more on the faster side than casual. And I don't mind having mixed parts. I ride more on the fixie/track side of things that's why I'm not too sure.

I currently have a Cinelli mash with a Rear fixed Enve wheel, rotor cranks, front spin mtb trispoke with some raceface longbars.
Start with the things you know you want and let that guide you.
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Old 03-24-20, 08:41 AM
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A picture of your frame would help. At one time my 82 Medici was my go fast bike and I had it spread to 130 and had a full Ultegra 6700 on it. It was awesome. If I were you and had a few bucks, I'd go 6800 with your Heds, carbon 3T cockpit and seat post.
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Photo of the frame

would permit two big forks in the road to be chosen: black versus silver; Campy versus non-campy. The rest is just details.

OP, are you building your own wheels, so...hubs to match the chosen groupset?
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Your biggest concern is getting a rear hub to match your freewheel/rear deraileur choice. Its either a Campagnolo or Shimano,They are not interchangeable so if your wheel hubs are already set up for Shimano your stuck with Shimano, and vice versa.

Unless you area able to swap out the Freehub Spline , which some older wheel hubs are not able to.

Once you figure out what hub Manufacturer your going to use, Lets say Campagnolo,,,you can buy something like this..

.https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-90s...MAAOSwD0deTAoh
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I put 8 speed Campagnolo on my ‘86 De Rosa. The rear hub is 128 mm so it plays nicely on a the 126 mm frame. It’s not a huge problem putting 130 mm hubs on a steel 126 mm frame IMO, but if you’re set on running modern 11 speed, I’d recommend getting the frame cold set to 130 mm.

Dont be tempted to “upgrade” to carbon fork. Keep the threaded steel with a quill stem. I think threadless stems are unattractive on bikes like these. There is a difference between English and Italian threading on the fork but it is minimal and many people consider the standards (for forks, not other stuff!) interchangeable. Italian is labeled, I think 25.4 x 24, and English 1 x 24. Thumbs up for keeping classic steel on the road!
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You are in LA so not a lot of climbing? What do you ride on your Vigorelli and Mash, and what do you like or find missing on those groups, wheels, saddles, bars, etc.? A picture would help, some frames look good with modern black groups other not so much.
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A picture of your frame would help. At one time my 82 Medici was my go fast bike and I had it spread to 130 and had a full Ultegra 6700 on it. It was awesome. If I were you and had a few bucks, I'd go 6800 with your Heds, carbon 3T cockpit and seat post.


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Originally Posted by Phil_gretz View Post
would permit two big forks in the road to be chosen: black versus silver; Campy versus non-campy. The rest is just details.

OP, are you building your own wheels, so...hubs to match the chosen groupset?
it all depends. Since I was thinking of Hed rims I thought of having them build them for me. I believe campy is the only thing that fits on this frame but then again I'm not entirely sure.
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Very cool frameset.

i think the Heds only come as complete wheels
and you choose Shimano or Campy.

Campy, Shimano, or SRAM will fit equally well. For a first road bike, I recommend very race worthy Ultegra. Shimano is very robust/flexible with other manufacturers. Campy not so much. Campy is Fancy.

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Were the frame mine, a matched Campagnolo group would be the only way to go. There are several groups on Ebay right now, some with stupid prices, some with close to acceptable. Anyway, a nice looking and wonderful working group on my long gone Cyclops...
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Or search locally for a donor bike with the group you want. Sell the frame when you are done.

All of my builds have started with finding a donor bike. Sometimes you can find a deal so good that the proceeds from the sale of the frame can cover the cost of the entire bike. At that point, other than your time, the upgrade is free. I've got several personal builds, and that is the case of all of them. But I am very patient, and I am flexible on the group.
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This is modern. 700 bucks for Ultegra R8000 which would look great with your Heds.
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Originally Posted by easyupbug View Post
You are in LA so not a lot of climbing? What do you ride on your Vigorelli and Mash, and what do you like or find missing on those groups, wheels, saddles, bars, etc.? A picture would help, some frames look good with modern black groups other not so much.
Just curious...Where did you get that idea? Lots of climbing is available in the LA area, if that's what you're looking for.
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I did not notice you were from Altadena where you would have some climbs, all my time was Long Beach where it was a haul to any real climbs.
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