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Old 03-31-20, 08:44 AM
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Peugeot Super Competition

Hi,

Hope everyone is well and staying safe during lockdown!

I bought a Peugeot Super Competition on eBay a few weeks ago and hoped you guys could help with some information and advice.

Hereís what I know so far:

Frame: Peugeot Super Competition with Reynolds 531 tubing and white front fork. Frame number Y101 2003

Bars: La Bonneville Iton 27190 CTA

Chainset: Unknown. The only marking I can see is Dotex on the plastic covers on the cranks and D0 Made in France on the inside of each crank

Drivechain: Shimano shifters and front/rear mechs, 7 speed rear cassette

Brakes: Exage Motion levers and I think matching brakes

Wheels: Campagnolo Berlin 36 front, Mavic T238 rear

The bike is roadworthy, with a few chips and marks on the paintwork and some outer cables need replacing. The brake hoods are missing but Iíve bought some of the same brakes with the hoods in place.

From what I can tell, some of the components have been replaced as I canít see that they would match the age of the frame.

My plan is to service the bike, ultimately to sell on as part of my education in fixing up older bikes. But Iíd love to know what you guys think, what age some of the bits are, and what youíd do to the bike to make it as desirable as possible.

It was only a cheap find on eBay, so donít feel bad if youíre writing something mean!

Many thanks,

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I'm certainly not a Peugeot expert, but I don't recall any non-lugged 531p framed "Prestige Peugeot" bikes.
I think someone stickered up a lower-level Peugeot.
First thing I would check - what's the seattube OD and the seatpost OD?
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I'm certainly not a Peugeot expert, but I don't recall any non-lugged 531p framed "Prestige Peugeot" bikes.
I think someone stickered up a lower-level Peugeot.
First thing I would check - what's the seattube OD and the seatpost OD?
Thatís what I was a little concerned about. Seat tube is 29mm OD, seat post is 25mm
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...not certain what that bicycle started out as, but here are a couple of Super Competition's for comparison reference.
You can note the many differences.........do you have any recourse through ebay ?








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...also, whoever applied those Peugeot stickers was not very good at it. Note how low the downtube sticker is positioned as opposed to an original.
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...not certain what that bicycle started out as, but here are a couple of Super Competition's for comparison reference.
You can note the many differences.........do you have any recourse through ebay ?
Thanks for that, itís clear when they are side by side like that!

To be fair, it was advertised as a ĎPeugeot Vintage Racing Bikeí with no mention of Super Competition, it was just me who jumped to that conclusion! I didnít realise it was so easy/common to re-sticker bikes. Oh well, all part of my education!
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I would be concerned about this bike. I am not a Peugeot expert but I did work in a bike shop in the 80s that sold a lot of Peugeots. This is not like any Reynolds 531 super competition I've seen. I know a fair bit about the bikes. Peugeot did come out with lugless models but those were typically lower end bicycles. I've never seen a Reynolds 531 Peugeot without lugs. That said, the bike has forged drop outs so the tubing may be decent.

Where are you located? Was this a bike sold in Europe or are you in North America?

Peugeot catalogs are available online.

https://www.bikeboompeugeot.com/
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Originally Posted by 3alarmer View Post
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...also, whoever applied those Peugeot stickers was not very good at it. Note how low the downtube sticker is positioned as opposed to an original.
Oh yeah! Again, itís really obvious now youíve pointed it out!
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Thanks for that, itís clear when they are side by side like that!

To be fair, it was advertised as a ĎPeugeot Vintage Racing Bikeí with no mention of Super Competition, it was just me who jumped to that conclusion! I didnít realise it was so easy/common to re-sticker bikes. Oh well, all part of my education!
No the stickers are part of the sale as well. If the stickers are fake (and they quite possibly are), I think you should have recourse against the seller via eBay.
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Speaking of decals, do I see two different Reynolds 531?
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Thanks so much for your help on this. Seems Iíve gone from a hopeful restoration project to cheap runaround!

Oh well, all part of the learning process, and at least Iíll have fun cleaning it up.

Once again, the level of knowledge on this forum has astounded me!
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Thanks so much for your help on this. Seems Iíve gone from a hopeful restoration project to cheap runaround!

Oh well, all part of the learning process, and at least Iíll have fun cleaning it up.

Once again, the level of knowledge on this forum has astounded me!
...I think the main reason you see people suggesting you contact ebay is that this is the kind of thing that makes the hobby more difficult.
Certainly it's unlikely that whoever stickered that bike was unaware of the counterfeit nature of it.

And certainly anyone selling bikes on ebay ought to have enough knowledge to prevent reselling something like that as a Peugeot without some clarification.
If someone profits from such a transaction, it's positive reinforcement for repetition. Which makes it harder in the old bike hobby for everyone.

Anyway, that's my feeling. I'm happy you feel you've learned something.
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