Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Classic & Vintage
Reload this Page >

Display bike and tire pressure

Search
Notices
Classic & Vintage This forum is to discuss the many aspects of classic and vintage bicycles, including musclebikes, lightweights, middleweights, hi-wheelers, bone-shakers, safety bikes and much more.

Display bike and tire pressure

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 01-03-22, 12:10 PM
  #1  
Amt0571
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Catalonia
Posts: 956

Bikes: Canyon Grand Canyon AL SL 8.0, Triban RC520 Gravel Ltd, Btwin Ultra 520 AF GF, Triban Road 7, Benotto 850

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 402 Post(s)
Liked 215 Times in 137 Posts
Display bike and tire pressure

Hello!

I'm restoring a Benotto 850 that I found abandoned. I don't intend to ride it, as its not my size, and the frame is known for breaking at the seat tube / bottom bracket weld.

I do want however to make it shine, as I intend to display it on a wall at my home office.

The wall in question is quite high, and I can't easily reach it, so I was wondering what can I do with the tires to avoid having to pump them up every couple of months to keep them looking good. I know there are solid tires, but I've been unable to find one that has the size I need.

Any idea? I don't care if the bike is unrideable after doing whatever is needed as it will only be a display piece.
Amt0571 is offline  
Old 01-03-22, 02:29 PM
  #2  
SurferRosa
señor miembro
 
SurferRosa's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2018
Location: Pac NW
Posts: 6,625

Bikes: '70s - '80s Campagnolo

Mentioned: 92 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3890 Post(s)
Liked 6,488 Times in 3,211 Posts
The tires need to look of appropriate quality, or it's going to throw the whole bike off. You have at least three options:

1. Mount appropriate tubes/tires and inflate every five months.
2. Mount appropriate tires without tubes and stuff with something like plastic peanuts.
3. Do not mount any rubber on the rims.
SurferRosa is offline  
Old 01-03-22, 02:43 PM
  #3  
noobinsf 
Senior Member
 
noobinsf's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Oakland, CA
Posts: 3,265

Bikes: '82 Univega Competizione, '72 Motobecane Grand Record, '83 Mercian KOM Touring, '85 Univega Alpina Uno, '76 Eisentraut Limited

Mentioned: 57 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1088 Post(s)
Liked 1,205 Times in 701 Posts
In my experience, if you don't have anything pressing against the tire, then a suspended bike with severely underinflated tires will not necessarily look it. A less supple wire bead tire (like Michelin Dynamic Classic) will hold its shape fairly well, despite having only a few psi in the tube. It's why I check and reinflate before every ride!
noobinsf is offline  
Likes For noobinsf:
Old 01-03-22, 03:21 PM
  #4  
ThermionicScott 
working on my sandal tan
 
ThermionicScott's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: CID
Posts: 22,629

Bikes: 1991 Bianchi Eros, 1964 Armstrong, 1988 Diamondback Ascent, 1988 Bianchi Premio, 1987 Bianchi Sport SX, 1980s Raleigh mixte (hers), All-City Space Horse (hers)

Mentioned: 98 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3871 Post(s)
Liked 2,568 Times in 1,579 Posts
I'd add: use thick tubes that are known not to have slow leaks (I assume everyone else has a diverse stash to draw from, too ), and go ahead and pump them up as far as you're comfortable when you do. No need to air these down for 15% drop!
__________________
Originally Posted by chandltp
There's no such thing as too far.. just lack of time
Originally Posted by noglider
People in this forum are not typical.
RUSA #7498
ThermionicScott is offline  
Old 01-03-22, 03:27 PM
  #5  
nlerner
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 17,159
Mentioned: 481 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3811 Post(s)
Liked 6,714 Times in 2,613 Posts
Back in my bike shop days, we sold these really thick “flat prevention/thorn proof” tubes that were close to solid but not quite. We all hated installing and removing them (the latter of which often involved destroying the tire). Perhaps you can still get those.
nlerner is offline  
Old 01-03-22, 04:07 PM
  #6  
Amt0571
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Catalonia
Posts: 956

Bikes: Canyon Grand Canyon AL SL 8.0, Triban RC520 Gravel Ltd, Btwin Ultra 520 AF GF, Triban Road 7, Benotto 850

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 402 Post(s)
Liked 215 Times in 137 Posts
Originally Posted by SurferRosa
The tires need to look of appropriate quality, or it's going to throw the whole bike off. You have at least three options:

1. Mount appropriate tubes/tires and inflate every five months.
2. Mount appropriate tires without tubes and stuff with something like plastic peanuts.
3. Do not mount any rubber on the rims.
I thought about stuffing them with something. I just don't know what's the best material to use... Maybe some type of foam like the one used on cushions?

Inflating them every X months is a PITA, as I can't reach the bike easily where I want to hang it.
Amt0571 is offline  
Old 01-03-22, 04:39 PM
  #7  
Bruizer
Newbie
 
Bruizer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2020
Location: Litchfield Hills,Connecticut
Posts: 73

Bikes: Grazzini,Litespeed,and Pinarello

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 33 Post(s)
Liked 92 Times in 33 Posts
I wonder if you could somehow fill them with spray foam insulation? Like Great Stuff.
Bruizer is offline  
Old 01-03-22, 04:43 PM
  #8  
obrentharris 
Senior Member
 
obrentharris's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Point Reyes Station, California
Posts: 4,529

Bikes: Indeed!

Mentioned: 92 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1507 Post(s)
Liked 3,478 Times in 1,132 Posts
I'd try a flexible foam rod sold by your local hardware/building supply store. Available in diameters up to 1 1/4". Do an internet search for "foam caulk backer rod" or "caulk filler rope."
Brent
obrentharris is offline  
Likes For obrentharris:
Old 01-03-22, 04:46 PM
  #9  
Bianchigirll 
Bianchi Goddess
 
Bianchigirll's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Shady Pines Retirement Fort Wayne, In
Posts: 27,860

Bikes: Too many to list here check my signature.

Mentioned: 192 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2930 Post(s)
Liked 2,928 Times in 1,493 Posts
Personally, as stated, I wouldn’t worry about it.

if you want to put something in the tire to hold shape try pipe insulation. It comes in a variety of diameters


__________________
One morning you wake up, the girl is gone, the bikes are gone, all that's left behind is a pair of old tires and a tube of tubular glue, all squeezed out"

Sugar "Kane" Kowalczyk
Bianchigirll is offline  
Likes For Bianchigirll:
Old 01-03-22, 04:49 PM
  #10  
Eric F 
Habitual User
 
Eric F's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2020
Location: Altadena, CA
Posts: 7,997

Bikes: 2023 Niner RLT 9 RDO, 2018 Trek Procaliber 9.9 RSL, 2018 Storck Fascenario.3 Platinum, 2003 Time VX Special Pro, 2001 Colnago VIP, 1999 Trek 9900 singlespeed, 1977 Nishiki ONP

Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4957 Post(s)
Liked 8,098 Times in 3,833 Posts
Originally Posted by obrentharris
I'd try a flexible foam rod sold by your local hardware/building supply store. Available in diameters up to 1 1/4". Do an internet search for "foam caulk backer rod" or "caulk filler rope."
Brent
This ^^^. Easy solution.
__________________
"Swedish fish. They're protein shaped." - livedarklions

Last edited by Eric F; 01-03-22 at 06:21 PM.
Eric F is offline  
Old 01-03-22, 04:56 PM
  #11  
thook
(rhymes with spook)
 
thook's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Winslow, AR
Posts: 2,788

Bikes: '83 univega gran turismo x2, '85 schwinn super le tour,'89 miyata triple cross, '91 GT tequesta, '90 yokota grizzly peak, '94 GT backwoods, '95'ish scott tampico, '98 bonty privateer, '93 mongoose crossway 625, '98 parkpre ariel, 2k'ish giant fcr3

Mentioned: 26 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 919 Post(s)
Liked 745 Times in 546 Posts
I don't know as I've never used the product/s, but what about the stuff they put in tubeless tires? Or that "slime" stuff. Maybe either would provide a more durable seal on the tube.
thook is offline  
Old 01-03-22, 05:03 PM
  #12  
Amt0571
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Catalonia
Posts: 956

Bikes: Canyon Grand Canyon AL SL 8.0, Triban RC520 Gravel Ltd, Btwin Ultra 520 AF GF, Triban Road 7, Benotto 850

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 402 Post(s)
Liked 215 Times in 137 Posts
Originally Posted by Bianchigirll
Personally, as stated, I wouldn’t worry about it.

if you want to put something in the tire to hold shape try pipe insulation. It comes in a variety of diameters


That seems like a great idea. I have to find one that fits inside 700x21 tires, but I think it should work!
Amt0571 is offline  
Old 01-03-22, 05:22 PM
  #13  
thook
(rhymes with spook)
 
thook's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Winslow, AR
Posts: 2,788

Bikes: '83 univega gran turismo x2, '85 schwinn super le tour,'89 miyata triple cross, '91 GT tequesta, '90 yokota grizzly peak, '94 GT backwoods, '95'ish scott tampico, '98 bonty privateer, '93 mongoose crossway 625, '98 parkpre ariel, 2k'ish giant fcr3

Mentioned: 26 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 919 Post(s)
Liked 745 Times in 546 Posts
Originally Posted by Amt0571
That seems like a great idea. I have to find one that fits inside 700x21 tires, but I think it should work!
That pipe insulation is measured for the inside diameter. IOW's, it's measured for what size pipe it's intended to insulate. So, you will have trouble finding something small enough. Perhaps some clear, flexible vinyl tubing? It should have the rigidity to give the appearance of an inflated tire. None of it is sold in metric, though...all in standard...ie. 1/2in, 3/4in, 1in, etc
thook is offline  
Old 01-03-22, 05:31 PM
  #14  
noobinsf 
Senior Member
 
noobinsf's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Oakland, CA
Posts: 3,265

Bikes: '82 Univega Competizione, '72 Motobecane Grand Record, '83 Mercian KOM Touring, '85 Univega Alpina Uno, '76 Eisentraut Limited

Mentioned: 57 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1088 Post(s)
Liked 1,205 Times in 701 Posts
Originally Posted by thook
That pipe insulation is measured for the inside diameter. IOW's, it's measured for what size pipe it's intended to insulate. So, you will have trouble finding something small enough. Perhaps some clear, flexible vinyl tubing? It should have the rigidity to give the appearance of an inflated tire. None of it is sold in metric, though...all in standard...ie. 1/2in, 3/4in, 1in, etc
This stuff is available in 16mm, 18mm, or 20mm outer diameter: https://www.amazon.com/uxcell-Tubing.../dp/B09521HQHL
noobinsf is offline  
Old 01-03-22, 05:40 PM
  #15  
repechage
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 20,305
Mentioned: 130 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3464 Post(s)
Liked 2,831 Times in 1,997 Posts
Originally Posted by Amt0571
I thought about stuffing them with something. I just don't know what's the best material to use... Maybe some type of foam like the one used on cushions?

Inflating them every X months is a PITA, as I can't reach the bike easily where I want to hang it.
you need a library ladder.
repechage is offline  
Old 01-03-22, 05:43 PM
  #16  
thook
(rhymes with spook)
 
thook's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Winslow, AR
Posts: 2,788

Bikes: '83 univega gran turismo x2, '85 schwinn super le tour,'89 miyata triple cross, '91 GT tequesta, '90 yokota grizzly peak, '94 GT backwoods, '95'ish scott tampico, '98 bonty privateer, '93 mongoose crossway 625, '98 parkpre ariel, 2k'ish giant fcr3

Mentioned: 26 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 919 Post(s)
Liked 745 Times in 546 Posts
Originally Posted by noobinsf
This stuff is available in 16mm, 18mm, or 20mm outer diameter: https://www.amazon.com/uxcell-Tubing.../dp/B09521HQHL
Well, okay then. I take back what I said. I haven't seen those options at the Lowe's or Home Depot
thook is offline  
Old 01-03-22, 06:16 PM
  #17  
droppedandlost 
small ring
 
droppedandlost's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: PNW
Posts: 1,025
Mentioned: 24 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 438 Post(s)
Liked 925 Times in 370 Posts
I would go with the foam option, but there's also things like the Vittoria Air Liner or Tannus Armour
__________________
59 Allegro Special -- 72 Bob Jackson -- 74 Motobecane Grand Jubile -- 74 Sekine SHS 271 -- 80 Nishiki International
85 Shogun 800 -- 86 Tommasini Super Prestige -- 92 Specialized Rockhopper -- 17 Colnago Arabesque
droppedandlost is offline  
Old 01-03-22, 07:31 PM
  #18  
randyjawa 
Senior Member
 
randyjawa's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Thunder Bay, Ontario, Canada - burrrrr!
Posts: 11,674

Bikes: 1958 Rabeneick 120D, 1968 Legnano Gran Premio, 196? Torpado Professional, 2000 Marinoni Piuma

Mentioned: 210 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1372 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1,752 Times in 939 Posts
Install thorn resistant inner tubes, pump them to prescribed pressure and forget about them for years. They do not bleed air like the flimsy inner tubes commonly fitted to vintage road bikes...
__________________
"98% of the bikes I buy are projects".
randyjawa is offline  
Old 01-03-22, 09:28 PM
  #19  
merziac
Senior Member
 
merziac's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: PDX
Posts: 13,046

Bikes: Merz x 5 + Specialized Merz Allez x 2, Strawberry/Newlands/DiNucci/Ti x3, Gordon, Fuso/Moulton x2, Bornstein, Paisley,1958-74 Paramounts x3, 3rensho, 74 Moto TC, 73-78 Raleigh Pro's x5, Marinoni x2, 1960 Cinelli SC, 1980 Bianchi SC, PX-10 X 2

Mentioned: 267 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4512 Post(s)
Liked 6,387 Times in 3,672 Posts
Originally Posted by Amt0571
Hello!

I'm restoring a Benotto 850 that I found abandoned. I don't intend to ride it, as its not my size, and the frame is known for breaking at the seat tube / bottom bracket weld.

I do want however to make it shine, as I intend to display it on a wall at my home office.

The wall in question is quite high, and I can't easily reach it, so I was wondering what can I do with the tires to avoid having to pump them up every couple of months to keep them looking good. I know there are solid tires, but I've been unable to find one that has the size I need.

Any idea? I don't care if the bike is unrideable after doing whatever is needed as it will only be a display piece.
https://cyclingtips.com/2021/04/vitt...or-road-bikes/
merziac is online now  
Old 01-04-22, 08:15 AM
  #20  
Bici Veloce
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2021
Location: So Cal
Posts: 97

Bikes: 2023 S-Works Tarmac SL7 Dura-Ace Di2, 2022 Cervelo Caledonia-5 SRAM Rival etap AXS, 2019 Specialized Sirrus Elite Alloy, 1977 Schwinn Super LeTour 12.2, 85 Bianchi Limited Shimano New 600EX

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 25 Post(s)
Liked 50 Times in 28 Posts
Originally Posted by obrentharris
I'd try a flexible foam rod sold by your local hardware/building supply store. Available in diameters up to 1 1/4". Do an internet search for "foam caulk backer rod" or "caulk filler rope."
Brent
Here's an example of backer rod.

https://www.amazon.com/Backer-Rod-Cr...a-871693325738
Bici Veloce is offline  
Likes For Bici Veloce:
Old 01-04-22, 09:38 AM
  #21  
tiger1964 
Senior Member
 
tiger1964's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Maryland, USA
Posts: 2,442

Bikes: Drysdale/Gitane/Zeus/Masi/Falcon/Palo Alto/Raleigh/Legnano

Mentioned: 34 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 987 Post(s)
Liked 641 Times in 407 Posts
Originally Posted by repechage
you need a library ladder.
What, can't one link an electric pump to an app these days? "Alexa, pump up my tires"
__________________
Larry:1958 Drysdale, 1961 Gitane Gran Sport, 1974 Zeus track, 1988 Masi Gran Corsa, 1974 Falcon, 1980 Palo Alto, 1973 Raleigh Gran Sport, 1974 Legnano. Susan: 1976 Windsor Profesional.


tiger1964 is offline  

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.