seedsbelize2

I was inside my 40 degree hollow fill, with a quilt on top. I’ll try a quilt under as well. I am just warm blooded. I do fine in mid nineties with humidity. At 82 I reach for a sweater. 57 last night, and colder predicted tonight. In case you’re new here, our house resembles a picnic shelter in its ability to close out the weather.

Velo Vol 

I've got plenty enough opportunities in my life to HTFU as it is. I don't need an extra HTFU challenge merely by walking out the door. SMH
Are you comparing being wet in one case versus not wet in the other?

How about apples to apples? Drench yourself with water first before going out in 20F. Report your findings.

3alarmer 

...there is no experience that can compare in life, to stepping outside in rural MN, with an ambient temp of -20* F. And feeling the ice crystals forming on your nose hairs, as you exhale. Knowing all the while, that unless you plugged in the block heater on your car, it's not gonna start.

That, sir, is living on the edge.

seedsbelize2

I sold off my gold $700 ago. My loss.

genejockey 

I suspect I'm one of the few people whose rain bike and trainer bike are the same bike. As a rain bike, it's hard to beat a plastic bike with disc brakes, while on the trainer, I like the solidity of the thru axle connection to the trainer, because QRs always feel just a bit...flexy.

My last ride before my trip East last week was a Sunday ride, after a rainy Saturday, so I took the Canyon, adding the S-blade fender. Then I travelled, getting back Friday night late. Sunday, it was nice and dry, so I took the Litespeed. So, last night when I got ready to Zwift, I discovered the Canyon was a bit...dirty. It didn't seem to affect the performance any, so I guess it's okay. Looks a little strange, though - here I am riding indoors on a muddy bike. Oh, well.

seedsbelize2

During that time, my Honda dealer had zero cars in the showroom, and they don’t have a lot. For months.

3alarmer 

...back when I was a poverty stricken hippie in MN, we used to hang damp laundry out in sub zero temps. It freezes quickly, and you can shake it out to get rid of most of the water. Then you arrange it at an appropriate distance from the wood stove, and it dries toasty and warm. What the hell, have you never left East TN ? It's a big, magnificent world out there, VV, and a lot of it gets cold in the winter time.

Not where I live now, admittedly. But I am olde and feeble now. And I always wanted to grow oranges.

seedsbelize2

All good, as long as your driveway doesn’t have a 25 degree slope.

LesterOfPuppets

My advice: Never start a bike ride wet, that's triathlete stuff.

seedsbelize2

Looks like you’ve got a bit of yard to mow.

genejockey 

When I was at Allegheny, and then in Ithaca, I actually enjoyed the cold and snowy weather. Yeah, at various temps different things happen, like at 0 F, my moustache would start freezing as moist exhalations from my nose condensed on the cold whiskers and then froze. At -20, you can feel the hairs in your nose freezing when you inhale. And going from outside at < 0 F to indoors at 68 F felt like opening the oven and climbing in.

I liked running in the cold, especially if there was fresh snow on the ground. It dampened the sound so all I heard was my own breathing and the *squinch* of the snow compressing under my feet.

Now, of course, all of this is predicated on 1) being young, and 2) having a nice warm apartment or dorm, and nice warm workplace/classrooms/labs.

I can't stand being cold indoors. Being cold indoors triggers feelings left over from a brief dark period in my life, after I'd finally given up on my crazy old boss - who had convinced me that I had to stick with him because I was too closely associated with him and his enemies would prevent me being hired - and before I got a job. BTW, it turned out my association with him not only didn't impede my getting hired, but actually helped - those who knew our work knew MY work.

seedsbelize2

My like button doesn’t work

SwtBadger

I use to offer ~2% over invoice, allowing them to keep the holdback (but not any dealer incentives) which was minimal, provided that there were no additional prep fees. Only had one dealer refuse, but this was pre-covid for cars <$30k. One can get a better deal than this, but it kept the dealer reasonable and doesn't create too much hassle on my part.

LAJ

I'm pretty much with you there. Some days, my commute home will be in rain, and that's a hard door to open when it's already raining. Starting to rain while I'm already underway, is far easier to stomach.

TMonk

Thank god for smart trainers. I won't go outside for more than a commute these days if there is a decent chance of rain.

I used to be more tough in the rain during college in the PNW. that's where I got my start. I'd do cold (sub 40 F) and rain, but not both. When the forecast called for both - we would have team sessions (collegiate) where we would ride dumb trainers together in one of the gym auxillary rooms. They had a fleet of em.

Velo Vol 

I don't start one if it's raining.
Where?

seedsbelize2

Today we celebrate International Leprosy Day. There are active cases in Mexico. USA?

seedsbelize2

I quoted t2p.

rjones28 

I always bring extra kit if I'm in more than one CX race on a rainy day. But sometimes there's not enough time to change between races, so you start wet.

genejockey 

That's my rule, generally - I'll ride if it looks like rain, but not if it's actually raining.

Velo Vol 

I don't need to go anywhere to experience cold. It comes right to my door.

big john

Save your pennies. Plenty of disadvantages here, too.

big john

Nope.

Velo Vol 

Also,

terrymorse 

But the pre check line ought to move faster, as the check is less complicated.