frequent sidewalk biking effect on bike?
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frequent sidewalk biking effect on bike?
Anyone ride on sidewalks a lot? Does it deteriorate a bike a lot faster because of constant small bumps? Or it's nothing to worry about?
When I'm riding around my neighborhood areas, which is almost daily, there are no bike paths on the street and I have no choice but to ride on sidewalks, about 80% of the time. I ride for leisure and store trips on my new cheap bikesdirect hybrid, only a month old. it's riding great now. However sidewalks are a lot bumpier then the street, although mostly small bumps, and it rides fine on the sidewalk.
But I'm wondering if the constant bumps is something very bad, not too bad, or nothing to worry about? Just make sure screws stay tight? Or am I wearing this bike down much faster?
When I'm riding around my neighborhood areas, which is almost daily, there are no bike paths on the street and I have no choice but to ride on sidewalks, about 80% of the time. I ride for leisure and store trips on my new cheap bikesdirect hybrid, only a month old. it's riding great now. However sidewalks are a lot bumpier then the street, although mostly small bumps, and it rides fine on the sidewalk.
But I'm wondering if the constant bumps is something very bad, not too bad, or nothing to worry about? Just make sure screws stay tight? Or am I wearing this bike down much faster?
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Your bike will last a long, long time. Yes, always keep on eye on what needs tightening, what needs cleaning, and what needs lubrication. Then ride the thing.
Unless you are topping a couple hundred mph on those sidewalks, your bike will not mind the bumps at all.
If the ride is Extremely rough, you can look at slightly lowering the tire pressure.
The big issue with sidewalks are cars pulling out, and pedestrians. Bumps ... enjoy them or ignore them.
Watch a downhill mountain bike race sometime. Those guys go 40 mph down slopes that would you literally could not walk down unassisted, banging through piles of rocks and roots that seem unrideable.
I'd check the tire pressure. if it recommends, say, 90 psi, try riding at 75.
Unless you are topping a couple hundred mph on those sidewalks, your bike will not mind the bumps at all.
If the ride is Extremely rough, you can look at slightly lowering the tire pressure.
The big issue with sidewalks are cars pulling out, and pedestrians. Bumps ... enjoy them or ignore them.
Watch a downhill mountain bike race sometime. Those guys go 40 mph down slopes that would you literally could not walk down unassisted, banging through piles of rocks and roots that seem unrideable.
I'd check the tire pressure. if it recommends, say, 90 psi, try riding at 75.
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If the bumps/cracks are enough to feel a jarring bump and they happen frequently then the most common place they may affect would be the headset bearings. If you gently rotate your headset and can feel spots where it seems to bump bump bump it may be the bearing as they dent the cups. Since those bearings mostly just sit there they tend to wear a "spot" and that may need repair but it may take thousands of miles. As for keeping scews tight, that's always important and if you have racks or fenders, put a dab of blue loctite on the screws after cleaning them.
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Your bike will last a long, long time. Yes, always keep on eye on what needs tightening, what needs cleaning, and what needs lubrication. Then ride the thing.
Unless you are topping a couple hundred mph on those sidewalks, your bike will not mind the bumps at all.
If the ride is Extremely rough, you can look at slightly lowering the tire pressure.
The big issue with sidewalks are cars pulling out, and pedestrians. Bumps ... enjoy them or ignore them.
Watch a downhill mountain bike race sometime. Those guys go 40 mph down slopes that would you literally could not walk down unassisted, banging through piles of rocks and roots that seem unrideable.
I'd check the tire pressure. if it recommends, say, 90 psi, try riding at 75.
Unless you are topping a couple hundred mph on those sidewalks, your bike will not mind the bumps at all.
If the ride is Extremely rough, you can look at slightly lowering the tire pressure.
The big issue with sidewalks are cars pulling out, and pedestrians. Bumps ... enjoy them or ignore them.
Watch a downhill mountain bike race sometime. Those guys go 40 mph down slopes that would you literally could not walk down unassisted, banging through piles of rocks and roots that seem unrideable.
I'd check the tire pressure. if it recommends, say, 90 psi, try riding at 75.
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Not sure if troll or not, but I will throw a hunk of flesh....
These "cheap China" frames you are talking about supply a larger portion of the industry than don't. Most manufacturers purchase from the exact same places in China/Taiwan and by many are considered the modern leaders in Al frame production, as well as CF for price/performance. My Spec Roubaix SL4 had a "Made in Taiwan" sticker on it. I don't think anyone can dispute what a good bike it's been in performance and popularity.
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Your bike will last a long time on bumps and frankly most bikes are made in China now. My sister has a bikes direct bike and its been great. You could do much worse.
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Not sure if troll or not, but I will throw a hunk of flesh....
These "cheap China" frames you are talking about supply a larger portion of the industry than don't. Most manufacturers purchase from the exact same places in China/Taiwan and by many are considered the modern leaders in Al frame production, as well as CF for price/performance. My Spec Roubaix SL4 had a "Made in Taiwan" sticker on it. I don't think anyone can dispute what a good bike it's been in performance and popularity.
These "cheap China" frames you are talking about supply a larger portion of the industry than don't. Most manufacturers purchase from the exact same places in China/Taiwan and by many are considered the modern leaders in Al frame production, as well as CF for price/performance. My Spec Roubaix SL4 had a "Made in Taiwan" sticker on it. I don't think anyone can dispute what a good bike it's been in performance and popularity.
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Or you could simply ride in the street.
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The thing to watch for in that bike is the rear wheel. 7-speed freewheels have a longer part of the axle protruding outside the wheel bearing, making them more prone to axles bending/breaking than a cassette hub with the same speeds.
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Any time you ride on bumpy terrain it will shake things loose faster than riding on smooth pavement. Just keep checking once in a while to make sure everything is tightened the way it should be.
Rode a lot of gravel on Sunday and at a stop I noticed that one of my taillights was about to fall off. Just needed a couple of screws tightened so the mount would hold it again. I'm not saying all the vibration from the gravel roads shook it loose that day, but I'm sure it helped.
Rode a lot of gravel on Sunday and at a stop I noticed that one of my taillights was about to fall off. Just needed a couple of screws tightened so the mount would hold it again. I'm not saying all the vibration from the gravel roads shook it loose that day, but I'm sure it helped.
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When I taught the safety section of Cycling Merit Badge to Scouts I would always tell kids that if they are going to ride on sidewalks they should consider themselves invisible and ride accordingly. We have enough problems with distracted drivers who barely see you on the road. You are traveling faster than a pedestrian and drivers may not see you approaching a driveway or street as you ride the sidewalk. It may not just be the bike that gets destroyed over time. I consider myself a pretty careful driver and do watch for cyclists but I nearly hit an adult on a bike who crossed in front of me. I was checking in both directions but he came upon me so fast that I didn't see him until I started out because the last check was to the left.
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Moreover, at intersections car drivers are looking for pedestrians, who travel at pedestrian speeds. If you're traveling at even 10 mph, that's 3x walking speed so you can suddenly appear in front of them from way beyond the distance they've scanned for possible conflicts. There's also the complication that, while pedestrians may have the right-of-way in a crosswalk, cyclists are not pedestrians. Your state may give you special rights; but for most of us, bikes are treated as vehicles and are expected to be in the road. Bottom line is, if you're not extra-careful, you could be put in the hospital, your bike totaled, and get a ticket and be liable for damages because it was your fault.
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Some one pulling out of their driveway and hitting you, on your Bike , on the sidewalks,
Moving faster than walking speed, is where the damage can happen.
There is a Stretch of 4 lane Highway 1/2 block down hill from my house ,
I ride a few blocks on the sidewalk along side that Highway (against the traffic flow) ,
as It is Flat and I dont have to cross 4 lanes of traffic when I get to my street.
the next street , goes up hill ..
riding slowly and giving way to pedestrians is expected.
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Moving faster than walking speed, is where the damage can happen.
There is a Stretch of 4 lane Highway 1/2 block down hill from my house ,
I ride a few blocks on the sidewalk along side that Highway (against the traffic flow) ,
as It is Flat and I dont have to cross 4 lanes of traffic when I get to my street.
the next street , goes up hill ..
riding slowly and giving way to pedestrians is expected.
...
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Regularly riding on the sidewalk subjects your bike to a much greater likelihood of a catastrophic event: Destruction by a collision with a car pulling into or out of a driveway.
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It won't harm your bike, but now you have to worry about all the people on the sidewalk. You're not allowed to run into them, but they're allowed to be oblivious, to step right in front of you (and it's your fault if you hit them or crash as a result), etc. And there's something much more dangerous you have to worry about: every driveway that crosses the sidewalk. Suddenly those are uncontrolled intersections when you ride on the sidewalk. Drivers aren't looking for you there.
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Most of our paved foot/bike trails are just sidewalks. Built the same way. Same seams every few feet. Same ridiculously narrow configuration. Same competition with other users for the same narrow space.
Regarding the jarring, no big deal. Still not as bad as chip seal roads.
Regarding the jarring, no big deal. Still not as bad as chip seal roads.
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You have a suspension fork and a suspension seatpost, so you have nothing to worry about. Just remember to always ride extremely slowly on sidewalks (1-2mph) and never when there are pedestrians present.
Your bike sounds like it is decent. If you can not afford a "professional" mechanic right now, take an allen wrench if you can find the right size and go around wherever you see an allen bolt and see if it is tight. They should stay a long time if tight.
Your bike sounds like it is decent. If you can not afford a "professional" mechanic right now, take an allen wrench if you can find the right size and go around wherever you see an allen bolt and see if it is tight. They should stay a long time if tight.
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Anyone ride on sidewalks a lot? Does it deteriorate a bike a lot faster because of constant small bumps? Or it's nothing to worry about?
When I'm riding around my neighborhood areas, which is almost daily, there are no bike paths on the street and I have no choice but to ride on sidewalks, about 80% of the time. I ride for leisure and store trips on my new cheap bikesdirect hybrid, only a month old. it's riding great now. However sidewalks are a lot bumpier then the street, although mostly small bumps, and it rides fine on the sidewalk.
But I'm wondering if the constant bumps is something very bad, not too bad, or nothing to worry about? Just make sure screws stay tight? Or am I wearing this bike down much faster?
When I'm riding around my neighborhood areas, which is almost daily, there are no bike paths on the street and I have no choice but to ride on sidewalks, about 80% of the time. I ride for leisure and store trips on my new cheap bikesdirect hybrid, only a month old. it's riding great now. However sidewalks are a lot bumpier then the street, although mostly small bumps, and it rides fine on the sidewalk.
But I'm wondering if the constant bumps is something very bad, not too bad, or nothing to worry about? Just make sure screws stay tight? Or am I wearing this bike down much faster?
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When I'm riding around my neighborhood areas, which is almost daily, there are no bike paths on the street and I have no choice but to ride on sidewalks, about 80% of the time.
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here's a typical road near me with no bike lane:
This is one of the busiest roads in the area, this google pic is a rare slow time.
I understand and mostly agree what others say about sidewalk risks from cars not expecting bikes on the sidewalk, but on this road, and others like it, I feel a lot more in danger on the road. In fact, I've never seen a biker on this road, not once. Only on the sidewalk.
This is one of the busiest roads in the area, this google pic is a rare slow time.
I understand and mostly agree what others say about sidewalk risks from cars not expecting bikes on the sidewalk, but on this road, and others like it, I feel a lot more in danger on the road. In fact, I've never seen a biker on this road, not once. Only on the sidewalk.
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I have been thinking about this and watching the sidewalk riders I see. I have come to the conclusion that some folks feel safer and actually might be safer on the sidewalks. It takes significant confidence and experience to be safe in traffic, and until a rider feels s/he is ready, the stress might actually make everybody less safe.
Ride where you feel safest. You can get hammered by an idiot in your living room ... no place is Truly safe. Ride where you feel most comfortable, and be aware of the specific dangers each scenario presents.
Ride where you feel safest. You can get hammered by an idiot in your living room ... no place is Truly safe. Ride where you feel most comfortable, and be aware of the specific dangers each scenario presents.
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I have severe hatred for anyone over the age of 16 who rides on a sidewalk
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Anyone ride on sidewalks a lot? Does it deteriorate a bike a lot faster because of constant small bumps? Or it's nothing to worry about?
When I'm riding around my neighborhood areas, which is almost daily, there are no bike paths on the street and I have no choice but to ride on sidewalks, about 80% of the time. I ride for leisure and store trips on my new cheap bikesdirect hybrid, only a month old. it's riding great now. However sidewalks are a lot bumpier then the street, although mostly small bumps, and it rides fine on the sidewalk.
But I'm wondering if the constant bumps is something very bad, not too bad, or nothing to worry about? Just make sure screws stay tight? Or am I wearing this bike down much faster?
When I'm riding around my neighborhood areas, which is almost daily, there are no bike paths on the street and I have no choice but to ride on sidewalks, about 80% of the time. I ride for leisure and store trips on my new cheap bikesdirect hybrid, only a month old. it's riding great now. However sidewalks are a lot bumpier then the street, although mostly small bumps, and it rides fine on the sidewalk.
But I'm wondering if the constant bumps is something very bad, not too bad, or nothing to worry about? Just make sure screws stay tight? Or am I wearing this bike down much faster?
Ride where ever you are most comfortable.
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