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Surly 1x1 Mk2 [new rims]

Old 04-15-10, 12:23 PM
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Surly 1x1 Mk2 [new rims]



I posted a review on my blog here of the 26" wheeled build of this frame. I liked riding the bike fixed enough I decided to sort out a couple issues I had with it.



Then I relaced the wheels to Velocity B43 700c rims and 28mm tires. I also added fenders and nicer pedals...



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This was my first build.
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I liked v1 a lot more, honestly. And even v1 could do with some fatter tires.
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I'm with Bob.
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I like the new grips, rims, and pedals.

Although, it's odd to have such thin tires on a bike where "fatties fit fine."
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Originally Posted by antiaverage
I like the new grips, rims, and pedals.
Oh yeah, that reminds me - those poor pedals look naked without clips and straps.
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Looks slick but needs a 700 on the front.
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Originally Posted by jim-bob
Oh yeah, that reminds me - those poor pedals look naked without clips and straps.
Ah, yeah... where's the FRS?
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Originally Posted by antiaverage
Ah, yeah... where's the FRS?
Originally Posted by destikon
Looks slick but needs a 700 on the front.
I'm not sure what FRs and 700 refer to???
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Originally Posted by antiaverage
I like the new grips, rims, and pedals.

Although, it's odd to have such thin tires on a bike where "fatties fit fine."
I'm going to move up to 32mm tires when I find a set I like. I don't have any use for bigger rubber than that on paved roads.
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FRS = Foot Retention System, such a clips & straps, clipless, Holdfast, etc.

700 = 700C Road bicycle wheels / ISO 622
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Originally Posted by antiaverage
FRS = Foot Retention System, such a clips & straps, clipless, Holdfast, etc.

700 = 700C Road bicycle wheels / ISO 622
Ahhh....I have straps and clips for it...haven't bothered with them yet. I mainly ride around downtown and haven't felt the need to be attached to the pedals. The wheels are both 700c.
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Well, a nice FRS helps you lift the pedals as well as press down on them. You should learn how to apply force to the pedals throughout the entire circle. You'll find that, properly done, it will reduce fatigue and allow you to better power the bike (especially up hills, makes a HUGE difference). Among other things...
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I've never heard anyone use the acronym FRS.
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Originally Posted by kringle
I've never heard anyone use the acronym FRS.
From a quick Google, it looks like it might be a Holdfast thing, but I started using it for short since there are so many styles of ways to hold your foot to the pedal:
https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&s...tention+system
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Originally Posted by antiaverage
Well, a nice FRS helps you lift the pedals as well as press down on them. You should learn how to apply force to the pedals throughout the entire circle. You'll find that, properly done, it will reduce fatigue and allow you to better power the bike (especially up hills, makes a HUGE difference). Among other things...
I'll get around to trying out the clips and straps at some point this spring and see what I think. I'm finding the fixed gear is pretty easy to ride around downtown as is. My area is flat so my main effort is accelerating from red lights.
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Originally Posted by vik
I'll get around to trying out the clips and straps at some point this spring and see what I think. I'm finding the fixed gear is pretty easy to ride around downtown as is. My area is flat so my main effort is accelerating from red lights.
A nice FRS definitely helps with acceleration. I can get going much faster when I can not only push down on my pedals but also lift simultaneously. You are effectively doubling your power input. Doubling is a big difference...

Also, since it is fixed gear, you'll find an FRS helps keep your feet attached to the pedals when a big hill starts to overpower you. It can become a safety issue.

It makes sense that you're taking your time and getting used to what you want at your own pace. Don't feel pressured, that's not my goal. I just want you to be informed so you can make your own decisions with a bit more to go on.

Happy riding!
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Originally Posted by vik
Ahhh....I have straps and clips for it...haven't bothered with them yet. I mainly ride around downtown and haven't felt the need to be attached to the pedals. The wheels are both 700c.
Holy crap! Optical dillusions. Looks like a 6fitty up front.
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Well, a nice FRS helps you lift the pedals as well as press down on them. You should learn how to apply force to the pedals throughout the entire circle. You'll find that, properly done, it will reduce fatigue and allow you to better power the bike (especially up hills, makes a HUGE difference). Among other things...
Very accurate. You should give it a try. It goes from a piston like pump-pump-pump to a machine-like flow.
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Originally Posted by kringle
I've never heard anyone use the acronym FRS.
I'm with kringle.
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Originally Posted by jim-bob
I'm with kringle.
...and I responded to kringle about it, too.

Originally Posted by antiaverage
From a quick Google, it looks like it might be a Holdfast thing, but I started using it for short since there are so many styles of ways to hold your foot to the pedal:
https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&s...tention+system
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The acronym FRS is proprietary jargon for Holdfast, a new company. You said, "FRS = Foot Retention System, such a clips & straps, clipless, Holdfast, etc. "

Anyway, back on topic.
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It really wants a tire -at least- this mighty:
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Originally Posted by kringle
The acronym FRS is proprietary jargon for Holdfast, a new company.
Yeah, I realized and admitted that earlier...

They didn't copyright it, AFAIK, and it makes good, useful sense. Before it was just clips vs clipless. Now we have crap like Holdfast, Power Straps, Feetbelts, blah blah blah. FRS is nice and short.
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I like it. The guy has balls, to post a pic of a bike with fenders! That's the kind of courage only us 40+ers display around here.
Moreover, this guy had balls posting a pic of a bike that (OMGWTFBBQ!!!) does not have a 144 BCD crankset! Heck, it's not even a 130 BCD crankset! It's not even a 110 BCD crankset! It's just what he had laying around, matched the frame and was the correct number of teeth - function over form - BFSSFG head explodes!

Really, what's not to like about this build:
1) Nice disc brake on the front wheel. This baby's gonna stop, whenever the master commands.
2) Frame allows for all kinds of upgrades later on. Fatties, for example.
3) Full fenders. This bike is going to be ridden during and after rain.
4) Fine wheels - bombproof, no unnecessary Arrospok ************.


It gets my approval.
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Originally Posted by jim-bob
It really wants a tire -at least- this mighty:
Why is the following so hard to comprehend:
Originally Posted by vik
I'm going to move up to 32mm tires when I find a set I like. I don't have any use for bigger rubber than that on paved roads.

vik doesn't sound like a person who would need knobby fat tires.



That said: can we see the rest of that bike?
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