Double Century Bike
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Double Century Bike
What type of Bike would you use?
I was thinking of building up a Campy bike with Chorus Ergo shifters, Stronglight z'light 180mm compact crank, chorus compact front derailleur, Wheels Manufacturing 11-27 cassette (along with medium cahe rear derailleur for the extra wrap capacity).
I especially like how campy makes specific front derailleurs for compact cranks (since the radius should be smaller for the 50T ring).
I was thinking of building up a Campy bike with Chorus Ergo shifters, Stronglight z'light 180mm compact crank, chorus compact front derailleur, Wheels Manufacturing 11-27 cassette (along with medium cahe rear derailleur for the extra wrap capacity).
I especially like how campy makes specific front derailleurs for compact cranks (since the radius should be smaller for the 50T ring).
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I would think the frame would have a lot more to do with being able to spend 200 miles on it than the component selection. That said, if your double century route has lots of climbs and you're too tough to ride a triple but not too tough for a compact (you do realize there isn't a difference) than the compact double is a good choice. I'd throw on the biggest rear cassette I could just in case. My guess is you'll be wanting to catch your breath on the descents rather than mash down them in your 53-11.
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Originally Posted by joejack951
I would think the frame would have a lot more to do with being able to spend 200 miles on it than the component selection. That said, if your double century route has lots of climbs and you're too tough to ride a triple but not too tough for a compact (you do realize there isn't a difference) than the compact double is a good choice. I'd throw on the biggest rear cassette I could just in case. My guess is you'll be wanting to catch your breath on the descents rather than mash down them in your 53-11.
Incidentally, 34-27 is equal to 39-30. so the compact double isn't really getting me all that much lower gearing.
I could just throw a mountain rear derailleur on my STI bike and get even lower gearing, but I'm using this as an excuse to build up a specialized bike with a campy drivetrain.
Oh, and yes Northern California is not flat!!!!
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Originally Posted by 53-11 alltheway
I have nothing against the gearing of the triple. I just don't like the extra complexity.
Incidentally, 34-27 is equal to 39-30. so the compact double isn't really getting me all that much lower gearing.
Incidentally, 34-27 is equal to 39-30. so the compact double isn't really getting me all that much lower gearing.
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I don't think I have a double century in me...really! So I'd have to say, my Gold Wing will have to do. Darn.
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Originally Posted by Steelrider
You said it yourself - the point of the compact is not to get you much lower gearing, but to get you lower gearing without the complexity of the triple and without giving up too much on the top end. However, 50-12 alltheway doesn't quite have the ring of 53-11...
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Originally Posted by 53-11 alltheway
What type of Bike would you use?
A motorbike.
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Originally Posted by koffee brown
I would use a bike that I could feel comfortable on for 200 miles! Seriously, I would!
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Originally Posted by UncaStuart
Ditto. I don't think that this necessarily means building up a special "double-C" bike. The Meridian tandem my wife and I have used on the Davis Double and the Mount Hamilton Challenge (and assorted rides from SF to LA) is the same off-the-shelf one we've used for commuting and towing the grandkids around. But it's something we can spend 15 hours on (yeah, yeah, our motto is "we may be slow, but we're slow"), and the only thing we've done to it is get an 11-34 9-spd cassette to help us on the occasional 15% grade. That said, it never hurts to have something lighter so you're not pushing as much around all day.
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I'd ride my bike this Friday! (OK I'm a bit excited about the ride)
52/42 crank 12/23 crank, CF Fork and stays, 23c tires.
52/42 crank 12/23 crank, CF Fork and stays, 23c tires.
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Originally Posted by pedal
I'd ride my bike this Friday! (OK I'm a bit excited about the ride)
52/42 crank 12/23 crank, CF Fork and stays, 23c tires.
52/42 crank 12/23 crank, CF Fork and stays, 23c tires.
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If you are going to do the Davis Double the climbs are not very hard. I don't think you will need a compack crank.I used to do the Davis every year untill I got sick of the rout and my low gear was a 39-26 and it was low enough.
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Originally Posted by fogrider
Ihave a 12x28 rear cassette which will put me pretty close,:
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53-11.... using a 12x27 is cheating, right? shouldn't you do the whole thing with an 11x21? and a steel bike? and a big, heavy anchor connected via a big chain to your seatpost? then you'll really be doing a double century.
i'd also look into disabling your fd so that you force yourself to stay in the 53t.
t
i'd also look into disabling your fd so that you force yourself to stay in the 53t.
t
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A few years ago I did five of the Northern CA double centuries. I used an inexpensive steel Look frame (w/CF fork) built up with the moderately priced Veloce group and workhorse Campy Montreal wheels. Rear cluster was 28X13. It may not have been the lightest or fastest bike around, but the comfy steel ride kept fatigue at bay and I had no difficulty finishing most doubles in around 11 hours on it.
On the other hand, if I get back into riding doubles this year it will probably be on a tandem. Some companionship is nice on a 200 mile ride.
On the other hand, if I get back into riding doubles this year it will probably be on a tandem. Some companionship is nice on a 200 mile ride.
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A lot of peeps are still upset that you want a gear (53x11) you won't spin out. Hey everybody get over it! On the other hand, you are building up a lot of bikes or at least always "thinking of building up" another. I think you probably have a bike or several that will go the distance. The one with the least steep seat tube angle probably best for long ride. How about a Saddleco Flow saddle to keep your bum happy? Check the review at cyclingnews dot com. It sounds like a really comfortable seat for a long day in the saddle.
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Originally Posted by mrballistic
53-11.... using a 12x27 is cheating, right? shouldn't you do the whole thing with an 11x21? and a steel bike? and a big, heavy anchor connected via a big chain to your seatpost? then you'll really be doing a double century.
i'd also look into disabling your fd so that you force yourself to stay in the 53t.
t
i'd also look into disabling your fd so that you force yourself to stay in the 53t.
t
I would never use an 12 tooth cassette. Period!!!!!!
P.S. On a 200 mile ride I don't need to break any speed records. Top Gearing quivalent to 54-12 is sufficient!
Last edited by 53-11 alltheway; 11-09-04 at 07:07 PM.