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Old 01-22-05, 04:17 AM
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Do you bring your helmet on long tours?

Im trying to decide if i should bring my helmet on my first extended tour. Im riding an adventure cycling route, and hope that they have picked safe routes. I really dont want to get out there and be the only one on the road, and end up lugging my helmet around.

I always wear mine when im commuting, because of the risk of manuvers and the stop and go of cars. It seems if i get hit on a 55mph road, my helmet might not do to much good.

Any advice on this?
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Old 01-22-05, 04:33 AM
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just take the helmet
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Ditto. Take the helmet...and...don't forget to wear it!
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Well, see what Adventure Cycling says.
If you feel youre a concious enough cyclist and you must save the weight, leave it.
But anyway you look at it, at least its SOME kind of insurance. Itll ''put your mind at ease'' so to speak.
Maybe you find your helmet fit to be a hassle?
find what brand fits you best because they all fit diferently:

Bell (fits me best)
Giro (ive owned but found a Bell that was so much more comfortable, so i gave the Giro away)
Garneau dosnt fit me well

also if you didnt know, as a much better absorbant substitute for that shabby foam padding, you can use regular maxi-pads for helmet pads.
They're far superior in that they don't spritz all the sweat into your eyes when you hit a bump, and they just make it a more comfortable fit for touring.
Just put one in the forehead position, otherwise
there's no room for your head.
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Old 01-22-05, 05:34 AM
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so just take it, and enjoy looking like a dork.
it will only make you calmer cooler and more collected being this IS your first tour (congratulations).
To be honest, i dont think youll be the only one.
wearing a helmet is common.
because it just might save your brains.
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This is a question for the 1970s. Nowadays, helmets are the rule, not the exception; your fellow travelers will chide you if you don't wear a helmet, not if you do.

Your helmet, though it may not protect against cars traveling at 55mph, will serve you well when you yourself collide with a fixed object, skid on loose gravel or just fall for some reason. And it sure is good in a hailstorm. It also marks you as a serious cyclist, and you'll likely enjoy more respect from drivers. Do it for your own safety and don't be concerned with appearances. The only raised eyebrows will likely be for those who ride bare-headed.
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Old 01-22-05, 08:05 AM
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On my first cross-country tour I was so busy watching the scenery that I didn't see a sandy spot in the road and crashed all by myself - fortunately I had my helmet. Plus I wear a cap under my helmet so it makes a nice bowl for little things I want to be sure to keep track of while camping. Safe riding - J
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Old 01-22-05, 09:19 AM
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I was road touring and ran into a manhole...sorry, a septic grate cover. The wheel went down 6 inches, I went over the bars. I had a few scratches, my bike was stuck in the grate. Later in the day, I checked my hemet and it has a little damage on the plastic cover, but the foam inside was cracked right through. That's where it hit the curb. I wouldn't be alive today if it was not for my helmet.

Take it and wear it and come home alive.
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I wear a helmet at all times when riding a bicycle.

Wearing bicycle helmets reduces the risk of head injury by as much as 85 percent and the risk of brain injury by as much as 88 percent. (Source: http://www.neurosurgerytoday.org/what/usa/think.asp)

Many people on bikeforums.net have reported head injuries, brain injuries, and close calls. It does happen. It's more common than you might think. About 140,000 incidents per year are recorded in the USA -- and that's just the count for young cyclists, not adults. I think of it this way: that's 1.5 million cyclists every decade, 3 million every 20 years -- the population of a big city. Hundreds of thousands of brain injuries would not have happened if all cyclists wore properly fitted helmets.

Traumatic brain injury is not pretty. I personally know someone whose brain was permanently fried as a result of a bicycle accident. (He was involved in a low-speed accident and dinged his unhelmeted head.)

Enjoy your tour. Wearing a helmet might muss your hair, but a brain injury could ruin your life.
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I would wear it. Additionally, you may not have much of a choice since many nations have laws that require it.
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no i don´t. but if you normally wear helmets i don´t see why you should leave it home and go on a trip by yourself.

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Old 01-22-05, 11:18 AM
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I take and wear mine. Have fun.
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Originally Posted by stokell
I was road touring and ran into a manhole...sorry, a septic grate cover. The wheel went down 6 inches, I went over the bars. I had a few scratches, my bike was stuck in the grate. Later in the day, I checked my hemet and it has a little damage on the plastic cover, but the foam inside was cracked right through. That's where it hit the curb. I wouldn't be alive today if it was not for my helmet.
While I've worn a helmet for 25 years, and have long advocated that cyclists wear helmets, I think you are jumping to a conclusion that may not be justified. You have no way of knowing if you would have been killed. Damage to the helmet and potential damage to the head are not necessarily related. Please do not make such unjustified claims. A description of the helmet damage is fine.

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Wearing bicycle helmets reduces the risk of head injury by as much as 85 percent and the risk of brain injury by as much as 88 percent. (Source: http://www.neurosurgerytoday.org/what/usa/think.asp)
The study referred to consisted of a biased (self-selected) sample. In 1989 cyclists who wore helmets probably rode more often, probably were more skilled, and probably were more safety conscious than cyclists who didn't wear helmets. These factors may also have reduced their risk of head injury and brain injury.

Furthermore, because helmet-wearing cyclists were more aware of the dangers of head injuries, they were more likely to run to the hospital to have any bump on the head checked out. Non-helmet wearers only came to the hospital in an ambulance or if they (or someone else) became aware that a significant injury had occurred. At least part of the reduced risk of brain injury was due to these differences.

Unfortunately, the actual risk rates may never be known because the medical establishment would prefer to see people who do not understand sampling repeat the bogus number over and over to help scare people into wearing a helmet, rather than do continuing research to establish a more accurate risk estimate. Shame on them!

Personally, I will continue to wear a helmet even if the risk differences are only 10 percent or maybe even smaller, because I value my head.


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Enjoy your tour. Wearing a helmet might muss your hair, but a brain injury could ruin your life.
I agree!

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Furthermore, because helmet-wearing cyclists were more aware of the dangers of head injuries, they were more likely to run to the hospital to have any bump on the head checked out. Non-helmet wearers only came to the hospital in an ambulance or if they (or someone else) became aware that a significant injury had occurred. At least part of the reduced risk of brain injury was due to these differences.

Unfortunately, the actual risk rates may never be known because the medical establishment would prefer to see people who do not understand sampling repeat the bogus number over and over to help scare people into wearing a helmet, rather than do continuing research to establish a more accurate risk estimate. Shame on them!
I normally do not respond to post by members who set themselves as subject matter experts, but as this is a matter of public safety, I would like to remind everyone that one member’s opinion bears no more weight than any other member, even when it takes the form of an omnibus missive.
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Helmet, all the way.
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i guess i will bring it with me, if i really dont like it i can always mail it back home.

I own a helmet now, but hardly wear it due to its size. Does anyone have experience with in-mold helmets? It seems like this would be the way to go, if i was going to have it on the back of my bike part time.

One helmet i was looking at was the lazer millenium @ nashbar. Any experience with this model?
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I don't ride across the parking lot without my helmet. I have lost control and fell over at 5 mph and cracked my helmet..I never go w/o...Could have been my head...In fact. I do not understand the controversy...I get so used to wearing helmet they feel a part of me..I have been known to get into the drivers seat with a helmet on..Soon realized you likely don't need such in a car..

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Old 01-22-05, 09:06 PM
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Take it. You will be glad at some point you did.
I rode a little over 430 mi last year on an self supported tour. Much of it on the Katy trail. A couple of times I got tired of wearing it so I took it off. I felt wierd without it so I put it back on. A couple of minutes later I was turning onto a road from the trail and my front tire slid out on gravel and I went down. My helmet hit the pavement. Boy was I glad I had it on! Maybe just a fluke. Either way I was glad I had it.
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Although Adventure Cycling routes try to select safe roads, there will undoubtably be plenty of rough roads, dogs, construction, dogs, high speed roads (even if low traffic), dogs, urban intersections, dogs, wet pavement, dogs, etc. to contend with. You may even get the odd beer bottle tossed at you by rednecks in pickup trucks.
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The first part of getting on a bicycle is putting on ones helmet.

I sounds to me like you need a helmet that fits properly. The suspension harness used in many newer helmets makes this easier to achieve. It is much easier to get the right helmet if one goes to his/her LBS and tries on helmets until a comfortable one is found. More expensive helmets usually have more bells and whistles and a marginally lighter in weight.

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Stokell wrote: "I wouldn't be alive today if it was not for my helmet."

and, "I normally do not respond to post by members who set themselves as subject matter experts,"

Where did I claim I was an expert?

Returning your snottiness: normally, I don't waste my time on people who claim omniscience but...

I repeat, you have no way of knowing if your helmet saved your life or not (unless you're omniscient). You may say, "I think my helmet saved my life," or "My helmet may have saved my life." But you cannot claim "My helmet saved my life." Nor could the emergency room staff make such a claim, although they often incorrectly do so. On the other hand, if you are willing to repeat your crash precisely as it occurred (very difficult) WITHOUT wearing a helmet, and you die, then you will prove you were right. Please, don't do that!

And, regarding the 85%/88%, repeating an inaccurate statistic over and over does not make it accurate.

Stokell wrote: "but as this is a matter of public safety, I would like to remind everyone that one member’s opinion bears no more weight than any other member, even when it takes the form of an omnibus missive."

Why are you saying this? My opinion was that he should wear a helmet, even if the risk reduction was much less that the bloated 85/88 percent.

Fun reading:

Huff, Darrell. How to Lie with Statistics. This little gem, originally published in 1954, can still be found on bookstore shelves and in libraries around here.

Best, Joel. Damned Lies and Statistics: Untangling Numbers from the Media, Politicians, and Activists. Published 2001.

Best, Joel. More Damned Lies and Statistics: How Numbers Confuse Public Issues. New, 2004, lots of nifty current examples.

Really, they are fun to read. Check them out on Amazon or Barnes & Noble.

Don't believe everything you hear on TV or read in the newspaper....


So, motion5447, take your helmet and wear it, even if it's not needed to save your life, it will provide shade for your head, help keep your head warm on cold days, and, if it has a visor, help keep the sun and rain out of your eyes. And, if you value your brain, you don't need an 88% risk reduction, a much smaller risk reduction is plenty.


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Who has worn a helmet for 24 bicycle tours from one to eight weeks in length, as well as over 99.9+% of the miles when on the bike. Hey, once, in the days before cell phones, my husband drove off with my helmet on the back seat of the car. I had to ride home without it. I was so embarrassed. I hoped noone I knew would see me...

Retired, but used to have a job where she used random and judgmental samples, and who now reads only "fun" books about statistics. Nope, not an expert, just a competent user.
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Motion, hello again!
You NEED to read my post below. Last August, I crashed and my helmet probably saved my life.

"Why you need to wear a helmet -- NOW!" http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=73912
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Don't see what the big deal is about wearing helmets, anyway. They're very comfortable and light, the only time I realize I've got one on is when I put it on and take it off. These people act like they're being asked to strap lead weights to their head!
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Originally Posted by krispistoferson
Don't see what the big deal is about wearing helmets, anyway. They're very comfortable and light, the only time I realize I've got one on is when I put it on and take it off. These people act like they're being asked to strap lead weights to their head!
I agree...Can't see how someone finds them uncomfortable..And the time I crashed at 6 mph..If not save me from an Emergency visit, at the very,very least It saved me from one hell of a headache...
I hit right on my temple just above my left ear.Head to concrete curb..The helmet cracked totally through and about 2 inches long...
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I wear mine whenever I ride. I also have a rear view mirror attached to the visor (eg. if didn't wear it-no mirror either). I take a ball cap with me if I feel self conscious about "helmet hair" not being presentable off bike (eating-siteseeing-around camp).

The few times I've fallen/crashed no cars were involved.
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