Help me understand pro cycling better
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Help me understand pro cycling better
I've been loosely following pro cycling for the past few years, but would like to get into it more. I've read a couple books and lurk here and on cycling news as well as GCN and other YouTube channels. I've also started listening to the "cycling podcast" the one Rapha sponsors. So I have a basic grasp (I think) of at least the main roles on the teams. Domestique, climbers, sprinters, etc. And some basic tactics.
what I'm struggling with is how the points work? Is it like a league where the races are cumulative or is that just for the GC? Is UCI like FIFA or more like the EPL? As an American, we have different metrics for sports that the rest of the world doesn't have, so that might be getting in the way of understanding it. If anyone could relate it to Pro Baseball or even pro soccer it might help. Is there any books for a beginner that break it down? I've searched on here, but honestly don't even know what terms to search, what I have searched hasn't resulted in much
TIA!
what I'm struggling with is how the points work? Is it like a league where the races are cumulative or is that just for the GC? Is UCI like FIFA or more like the EPL? As an American, we have different metrics for sports that the rest of the world doesn't have, so that might be getting in the way of understanding it. If anyone could relate it to Pro Baseball or even pro soccer it might help. Is there any books for a beginner that break it down? I've searched on here, but honestly don't even know what terms to search, what I have searched hasn't resulted in much
TIA!
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I've been loosely following pro cycling for the past few years, but would like to get into it more. I've read a couple books and lurk here and on cycling news as well as GCN and other YouTube channels. I've also started listening to the "cycling podcast" the one Rapha sponsors. So I have a basic grasp (I think) of at least the main roles on the teams. Domestique, climbers, sprinters, etc. And some basic tactics.
what I'm struggling with is how the points work? Is it like a league where the races are cumulative or is that just for the GC? Is UCI like FIFA or more like the EPL? As an American, we have different metrics for sports that the rest of the world doesn't have, so that might be getting in the way of understanding it. If anyone could relate it to Pro Baseball or even pro soccer it might help. Is there any books for a beginner that break it down? I've searched on here, but honestly don't even know what terms to search, what I have searched hasn't resulted in much
TIA!
what I'm struggling with is how the points work? Is it like a league where the races are cumulative or is that just for the GC? Is UCI like FIFA or more like the EPL? As an American, we have different metrics for sports that the rest of the world doesn't have, so that might be getting in the way of understanding it. If anyone could relate it to Pro Baseball or even pro soccer it might help. Is there any books for a beginner that break it down? I've searched on here, but honestly don't even know what terms to search, what I have searched hasn't resulted in much
TIA!
There are bonus seconds to be had for winning certain stages, etc. But that is not as important usually as just getting a good time. This is why the contenders for the Grand Tours will usually not care so much about winning stages as about gaining time on their closest competitors (completing the stage before your closest competitor). Winning stages is more of a prestige thing in the grand tours, not needed to actually win it.
This only goes for the stage races obviously. One-day races such as the spring classics (Paris-Roubaix, Tour of Flanders, Milan-Sanremo) are just 1 race, and the first one over the line wins.
There is a WorldTour Ranking, which is like a "league" in which riders and teams get points based on Worldtour classified races, but this is kind of not important. I follow cycling pretty closely and I never ever look at those. Not important to follow or enjoy the sport. Really it is more about "who is going to win the Tour de France this year" or "who is going to win Paris-Roubaix". It is not an overall seasonal thing you follow like NBA or NFL. You can just kind of tune in depending on which races you enjoy. They are kind of a stand-alone thing.
Also, different riders are suited to different styles of riding. To win the Tour de France, Giro d'Italia, etc. you have to be an all-rounder, and also good at climbing in the mountains (lightweight riders usually). To win the one-day "Classics" races, you typically have to be a strong, punchy rider with a fast finish (sprint) (usually more muscular / strong riders, not climber types). So you could really look at the sport as having a "classics season" (the spring) where a certain type of rider does well, and a Grand Tours Season (the summer) where the climbers and all-rounders do well.
Those are just the basics, Hope this helps!
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There is a WorldTour Ranking, which is like a "league" in which riders and teams get points based on Worldtour classified races, but this is kind of not important. I follow cycling pretty closely and I never ever look at those. Not important to follow or enjoy the sport. Really it is more about "who is going to win the Tour de France this year" or "who is going to win Paris-Roubaix". It is not an overall seasonal thing you follow like NBA or NFL. You can just kind of tune in depending on which races you enjoy. They are kind of a stand-alone thing.
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Thank you so much, everything you said really helped, but the quote above is what I was really trying to find out. So even with the teams, there is no real connection between the races either? That is what was confusing me, because I kept thinking that the races would in a sense add up overtime, but then not every team enters every race so that was confusing me.....
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UCI_World_Tour
Also, individual riders win races, even though they are part of a team, the prizes are always individual. I assume you are familiar with domestiques and all that: a strong rider basically NEEDS a good team in order to win, but it is the individual rider who gets credited with the win, not the team. Historically, the team leaders would split their prize money with their domestiques, as a recognition of their help during the races.
When writing it all down, professional cycling does seem like a bizarre sport. But I like it! It is so different than any other sport really.
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This is not the racing part, but it may help understand it.
Go here: https://www.procyclingstats.com/
Go here: https://www.procyclingstats.com/
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For Paris-Roubaix:
Winner got 500 points, 2nd = 400, .....60th = 3 points.
It's not important to know for following a race, but it's sort of lot like ERA or RBI in baseball and fun to look at. The cream rises to the top.
Current rankings:
1 Alaphillipe 3566
2 Valverde 3257
3 Doumoulin 3145
There used to be a special jersey for current leader of the world cup races... no longer a thing.
And before that there was a trophy called "Super Prestige Pernod" which was kind of like the UCI points leader at the end of the season.
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