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Old 05-30-09, 12:16 AM
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Final fit post: Fit position photos.

Hey, all! I'm sorry I created so many threads regarding my fit; this is the final one that I'll make, as some adjustments have been made and others will be made soon.

This is the position I have while on the hoods. I exchanged the super plush saddle (which looked horrible on this bike) with a saddle that I had lying around, a Selle Italia C2. I also moved all spacers to the top.



This is the position I have while on the drops.



I will be making the following changes:
  • Shortening stem from its current size (size unknown) to 90mm.
  • Shortening top cap size to 5mm from current size (size unknown, but definitely not 5mm right now).

Critiques? I've done a lot of searching in addition to my asking around, and all of the info I've found has been helpful in some way or other.

Thanks for the help, everyone.
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Bike looks too small
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Originally Posted by MONGO!
Bike looks too small
If this is true, that would explain everything.
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In the second position, can you see the front wheel hub in front of the bars?
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Yes, but not in the first.
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Your leg looks awfully straight. Any idea if you're dropping your heel in those pics?
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Originally Posted by MrCrassic
Yes, but not in the first.
Because your arms are too straight.

You don't need a shorter stem, you need a longer one.
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The pics are a little crap; couldn't move far enough to get all of my body.

And no, my heels weren't dropped. I'll probably drop the seatpost a cm or so.
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Originally Posted by MONGO!
Because your arms are too straight.

You don't need a shorter stem, you need a longer one.
I always feel like reaching for the top of my handlebars, though.
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Originally Posted by MrCrassic
I always feel like reaching for the top of my handlebars, though.
Souplesse.

You can has it.
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Edit: Google is a powerful tool. And yes, I'll drop my seatpost a little bit to relax the knees a bit more.

I'm going for a nice ride tomorrow to really give this the test it deserves.
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Lower seat, longer stem (and don't lock your elbows).
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Originally Posted by MrCrassic
Edit: Google is a powerful tool. And yes, I'll drop my seatpost a little bit to relax the knees a bit more.

I'm going for a nice ride tomorrow to really give this the test it deserves.
Bend your elbows.

Bend them more.
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Your legs are hella straight.

Lower and longer will be better.
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I'll make these changes and post pics in the morning before my ride (provided that it doesn't rain).

NOTE: I actually inquired about a longer stem myself, as I discovered a few minutes before I did that the stem on my Trek is longer and my arms feel much more comfortable on them.
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You are awful upright in the hoods. I'd go longer in stem, maybe a bar that didn't have a flat transition to the hoods, i.e. classic bend, that would bring the hoods lower. For example, this is what I look like in the hoods, in terms of hip angle and back flatness, and I don't think I run all that much drop.
edit: I raced some of your dudes in this crit. Didn't chat much, just recognized the kit. You should come up with them.
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Yeah, the bike's too small. The seat-bar drop looks good, but the short cockpit is keeping your torso too high.
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Originally Posted by MrCrassic
I'll make these changes and post pics in the morning before my ride (provided that it doesn't rain).

NOTE: I actually inquired about a longer stem myself, as I discovered a few minutes before I did that the stem on my Trek is longer and my arms feel much more comfortable on them.
Tape measures are your friend. If you like you Trek set-up, measure everything and transfer the numbers to the Giant. Start tweaking thereafter. First saddle height then saddle fore-aft (use a plumb-bob to get started) then reach (e.g. stem)...Good luck.
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what length is the stem? i dont believe the bike is to small. Also lower your saddle.
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I agree with several posters that the bike looks small and your positioning is awkward.

However, the more I watch the Giro and see some of the odd bike setups, the more I become convinced that posting pictures asking for fit advice may not be a good idea. You didn't mention in this thread if you were experiencing pain or discomfort while riding. To me that is the absolute key. If you can ride your favorite distances comfortably and you aren't experiencing post-ride pain, then your fit is good...for you.

Look at some of the Giro riders. Their fits are all over the map. Some guys are long and low. Some are crouched and upright. Depends what works for you.

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Originally Posted by mongo!
because your arms are too straight.

You don't need a shorter stem, you need a longer one.
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Originally Posted by fatallightning
You are awful upright in the hoods. I'd go longer in stem, maybe a bar that didn't have a flat transition to the hoods, i.e. classic bend, that would bring the hoods lower.
+1 This seems to be about right. And def. bend the elbows.

Fatallightning, You're racing in JEANS? Ouch.
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You've been given a whole lot of poor advice. Saying that the bike is too small when the stem length is not very long makes no sense. The stem length can easily be 20-30mm longer and that covers several frames sizes of additional TT length.

There's no reason not to know what the stem length is. Lay a ruler along the top and measure from the center of the top cap bolt to the center of the bars. If it measure a few millimeters more than 100mm, it's a 100. Modern stem measure a little long by that method.

I would not change bars to get the hoods lower. More poor advice. If you have no spacers and the headset top section height cannot be reduced, get a 73 degree stem to produce the lowest practical height. Then use the spacers as needed to adjust the height.

As for the saddle height, no inteligent comment can be made without seeing your foot. If the foot is horizontal with the leg fully extended, that would be a common starting point for the proper saddle height. If the heel is raised 2-3cm during normal pedaling, you'll have the commonly recommended 30 degreee bend in the leg.

Check your saddle fore/aft position. While KOP is a decent starting point, you'll have less weight on your hands with the saddle further back. If youre at KOP now, moving the saddle back 1cm won't a thing. You may find that you're better balanced over the saddle. You'll also get to see what 1cm more reach feels like.

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For a second I thought you had a King Tut beard in the second pic
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Originally Posted by jynx
what length is the stem? i dont believe the bike is to small. Also lower your saddle.
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