Don't Be a Jerk on the Bike
03-02-21, 10:18 AM
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IKR. Back in 2017 I was riding the GAP trail in PA. I was in the town of W. Newton walking my bike. Wanted to cross a street and waited at the intersection for the light to turn green, like a good citizen. Light turns green and I enter the crosswalk. "Karen" nearly hits me trying to make a left turn. She yells profanity at me. The only thing she could have been pissed at was that I hadn't crossed on red and thus got in her way.
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03-02-21, 10:41 AM
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I think another state recently adopted the saw laws. You can treat stop signs as yield signs. You have to come to a complete stop and red lights, but then you can proceed through is it's safe to do so. When Idaho first adopted it, car/bike accidents dropped then leveled off.
I take the same approach here in Philly. Makes total sense because the city has so many narrow streets. Allows a cyclist to stay ahead of auto traffic when there is no bike lane.
I take the same approach here in Philly. Makes total sense because the city has so many narrow streets. Allows a cyclist to stay ahead of auto traffic when there is no bike lane.
If it comes down to a conflict between following the law and riding more safely, I'm going to always choose the latter.
03-02-21, 11:14 AM
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So it's okay to be a jerk, but just not on a bike.
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03-02-21, 11:22 AM
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How can people safely make a right turn on red after stop if going when the light is red is unsafe? How about making it through a yield sign? The same risk management principles that allow us to do those things safely can allow us to run red lights and stop signs perfectly safely. It's not Covid science, it's really simple.
03-02-21, 11:45 AM
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How can people safely make a right turn on red after stop if going when the light is red is unsafe? How about making it through a yield sign? The same risk management principles that allow us to do those things safely can allow us to run red lights and stop signs perfectly safely. It's not Covid science, it's really simple.
03-02-21, 11:48 AM
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03-02-21, 12:14 PM
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03-02-21, 12:15 PM
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Look, I disagree and that's that. The other instances are different in principle and I could get into a month long debate but lets just let it go! If you want to think I am wrong and you are right , I'm ok with that . I don't need to get validation from you or any one else.
How do you ever find the courage to depart a stop sign?
03-02-21, 12:20 PM
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if you look in the mirror as you blow past the sign, it reads, "POTS" . So you're really approaching a stop sign, but passing a pots sign.
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Be sure to come to a complete stop here: https://www.google.com/maps/@37.5618...!7i3328!8i1664
Not only will it serve to raise the public's perception of us jerks, but also because it is completely impossible to roll through this intersection safely without stopping.
Not only will it serve to raise the public's perception of us jerks, but also because it is completely impossible to roll through this intersection safely without stopping.
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03-02-21, 12:50 PM
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03-02-21, 01:06 PM
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Be sure to come to a complete stop here: https://www.google.com/maps/@37.5618...!7i3328!8i1664
Not only will it serve to raise the public's perception of us jerks, but also because it is completely impossible to roll through this intersection safely without stopping.
Not only will it serve to raise the public's perception of us jerks, but also because it is completely impossible to roll through this intersection safely without stopping.
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03-02-21, 01:57 PM
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03-02-21, 01:58 PM
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03-02-21, 03:32 PM
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03-02-21, 03:46 PM
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I once got pulled over for going through a red light,
It was 7:00am on a Sunday in June, It was a road with 3 lanes each way and I stopped. After a minute of no cars and none in sight I went past the light. I was about 3 block from the intersection when I head a police car so I pulled over to let him go by.. and he pulled over. He decided to lecture me about how he could write a ticket and it would go in my driver's license. And if I didn't have valid picture ID he could arrest me and take my bike. I decided to let him talk since he wasn't giving me a ticket.
As it turns out, I have a friend who's a captain at the same precinct and mentions the story. He said he knows who it was and he's a jerk. And if he did write a ticket the judge would throw it out.
Yes, many cyclists are jerks.
I do go through red lights and stop signs IF I feel it is safe. After all, if in wrong, i'm the one that pays for it.
I generally wave to motorists that give the right of way and are courteous.
It was 7:00am on a Sunday in June, It was a road with 3 lanes each way and I stopped. After a minute of no cars and none in sight I went past the light. I was about 3 block from the intersection when I head a police car so I pulled over to let him go by.. and he pulled over. He decided to lecture me about how he could write a ticket and it would go in my driver's license. And if I didn't have valid picture ID he could arrest me and take my bike. I decided to let him talk since he wasn't giving me a ticket.
As it turns out, I have a friend who's a captain at the same precinct and mentions the story. He said he knows who it was and he's a jerk. And if he did write a ticket the judge would throw it out.
Yes, many cyclists are jerks.
I do go through red lights and stop signs IF I feel it is safe. After all, if in wrong, i'm the one that pays for it.
I generally wave to motorists that give the right of way and are courteous.
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03-02-21, 06:06 PM
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I once got pulled over for going through a red light,
It was 7:00am on a Sunday in June, It was a road with 3 lanes each way and I stopped. After a minute of no cars and none in sight I went past the light. I was about 3 block from the intersection when I head a police car so I pulled over to let him go by.. and he pulled over. He decided to lecture me about how he could write a ticket and it would go in my driver's license. And if I didn't have valid picture ID he could arrest me and take my bike. I decided to let him talk since he wasn't giving me a ticket.
As it turns out, I have a friend who's a captain at the same precinct and mentions the story. He said he knows who it was and he's a jerk. And if he did write a ticket the judge would throw it out.
Yes, many cyclists are jerks.
I do go through red lights and stop signs IF I feel it is safe. After all, if in wrong, i'm the one that pays for it.
I generally wave to motorists that give the right of way and are courteous.
It was 7:00am on a Sunday in June, It was a road with 3 lanes each way and I stopped. After a minute of no cars and none in sight I went past the light. I was about 3 block from the intersection when I head a police car so I pulled over to let him go by.. and he pulled over. He decided to lecture me about how he could write a ticket and it would go in my driver's license. And if I didn't have valid picture ID he could arrest me and take my bike. I decided to let him talk since he wasn't giving me a ticket.
As it turns out, I have a friend who's a captain at the same precinct and mentions the story. He said he knows who it was and he's a jerk. And if he did write a ticket the judge would throw it out.
Yes, many cyclists are jerks.
I do go through red lights and stop signs IF I feel it is safe. After all, if in wrong, i'm the one that pays for it.
I generally wave to motorists that give the right of way and are courteous.
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03-02-21, 07:49 PM
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I won’t inconvenience or endanger others, but obeying traffic laws can get you killed just as easily as not obeying them.
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03-03-21, 06:57 AM
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Wait...
So if the father from Orange Country Choopers is rolling up to a stop sign controlled interstection but he ain't there yet and I'm about to ride through because ain't nobody presently wait'n to go through said interstection, I should hold up for Wally Walrus so's he can pollute my ear drums when he takes off with his louder for chowder phallic symbol on wheels?
And do those things even come with turn signals...?
So if the father from Orange Country Choopers is rolling up to a stop sign controlled interstection but he ain't there yet and I'm about to ride through because ain't nobody presently wait'n to go through said interstection, I should hold up for Wally Walrus so's he can pollute my ear drums when he takes off with his louder for chowder phallic symbol on wheels?
And do those things even come with turn signals...?
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