alexihnen 

Lightly edited from Greg's site: https://www.lemond.cc/carbon-fiber-bicycles

BobbyG

I looked at their site...why so dark?
However the bikes are attractive, in the modern style.

mstateglfr 

Meh.
it's certainly minimalist. But it also does nothing for me. It looks like an expensive fixie in how minimal it is.
1x up front on a road bike, huh?

mstateglfr 

The advertisements where a dark shadowed frame is displayed in a dark room are just dumb. Whatever the desired goal is, its missed on me.

delbiker1 

My opinion, that is flat out ugly.

one4smoke

Yeah, whomever came up with that needs to be fired.

I can understand them not being proud of the looks, but geez.

TheDudeIsHere

I have had a couple of roadie Lemonds and I would buy one again. Mainly because the fit was excellent and no other bike has felt as sweet a ride to me. Madone, Cannondale, carbon, steel, alum, the sweetest ride was the Lemond. I loved the fit and geo. The single ring I am not crazy about, I'd have to get a double.

The ugly paint, the ugly dark theme, who cares? I ride for the ride and don't care if I look pretty!

Honestly, I have had several bikes, several colors and after 2 minutes on the bike, I don't even remember what the bike looks like or the color.

Rajflyboy

Lemond Alp Duez

masi61

I know that Lemonds are known for long top tube lengths but the picture of this one looks really long. Almost like the bike pictured is for someone 6'3" or taller.

TheDudeIsHere

Mine was not the fat carbon but the one in the image has somewhat of a small headtube which to me means it isn't all that big of a bike in the image.

My headtube was much taller at a size 57 cm. I am 6'1 and it fit like a well worn fitting glove. I do have a long torso for my height and only a 32 inch inseam.

All my other bikes are 58 but the Lemond 57 looked "bigger" though it wasn't.

aclinjury

I would buy it for $5000 usd or less
It's perfect for the flat with power rollers

livedarklions

So the concept here is that they've got a new manufacturing process that will make carbon frames as cheap as aluminum. I'm guessing that the reason that the photos are so dark is that these are mock-ups subject to some changes when actual production starts.

The website doesn't even name models yet let alone lay out any specifics.

diphthong

if i hafta be honest....and i've been riding for 20 years... that 2002 buenos aires steel 853 reynolds frame decended like no one's biz. never had a speed wobble.
got over 50 mph multiple x's. top speed on that frame was 56 mph. have had pricier frames, cheaper frames and similar setups but that one was golden.
and yes, liked the fit and the geo...would frequently ride a half mile or more at a stretch using no hands. so stable. never rode a bike before or since
that's been as dependable. not sexy but definitely a go-to steady.

jgwilliams

I'm guessing it's a gravel bike. 1 x 12 or 1 x 11 is pretty common for them. Looks like one of the SRAM group sets ... in as much as you can see anything at all.

bcpriess

Totally off topic, for the op. The guy that took over nexstl seems to have completely abandoned the site the past six months. Do you still have any affiliation with that?

livedarklions

Anybody able to decipher this gobbledygook enough to ascertain whether there really are any bikes yet?

https://www.bicycleretailer.com/anno...d#.XiIkGMhKhpg

I read this to mean that they're running a small line producing the carbon fiber material as a proof of concept. Is that right?

mstateglfr 

Sure except its labeled as a road bike on the site

TheDudeIsHere

I only wish I had gotten a Zurich back in the day when they were steel. Almost pulled the trigger but being new, I was naive and not sure if it would be worth it. Stupid me!

Yes, my Lemond, I actually descended on Glendora Mtn Rd with no hands at 30 mph (steady and the speed is what actually made me put my hands back down). I was trying to set a top speed PR no hands and figured the Lemond was best for it. I would not do that on my Cannondale or Madone.

livedarklions

Not sure which of my bikes would be best for that, but I would not do that with my me.

TheDudeIsHere

I had read a thread in a cycling forum where many had said that they were scared descending at 25 MPH. Our local road we hit up to 40 easily on the shorter 8 mile descent of switchbacks. Only one or two straightaways there where we hit 40. Which is pretty normal on that ride. So while I was up there, I sat up no hands to see how fast I could go with no hands before I got scared.

30 was it no hands but I was just trying to see if I could do 25 no hands.

Once one gets used to the descents, 25 is a pretty average speed to descend. I know if they had the experience, they would get to the point where 25 is actually an easy speed to keep good control.

So it was an experiment.

diphthong

you and me both. loved that blue/yellow paint scheme on the zurich. the 2001 i think.

i think i got up to 33-34mph (on the old cateye) with no hands on that lemond buenos aires but it was on a downhill straightaway on newish pavement i knew well. 15 years later...wouldn't do it again but if i had to, it would be on that bike.

livedarklions

Getting to the mid-30s on a descent is something I'm comfortable with, but my hands are staying firmly on the bars on any descent. I need to feel like I'm in as much control of my bike as possible. My worst wipeout was the result of encountering an unexpected below-grade manhole at the bottom of a San Francisco hill.

sdmc530

This^^^^ the company goal is to make carbon fiber that is as good as current frames but the same price of alum bikes. They say they are very close...that would be a big deal if they could do it.

livedarklions

Absolutely. I'm just skeptical that those pictures are of production models. The fact that they're deliberately obscure pictures is otherwise inexplicable.

sdmc530

the bikes I have seen in videos were for a lack of better words were looking really terrible. The finish wasn't pretty at all. They were all raw carbon with seams and it wasn't sales floor ready. The frame parts are injection molded carbon fiber parts and that is cool but they still will need lots of finishing work to make them look good. So if that type of finishing detail not being done at factory is to keep the prices down like they say they are then the value is not really there IMO. People want a carbon bike but it has to look good too.

I am optimistic that they can make it a better. Will see where this goes.