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Old 07-26-19, 06:53 PM
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Stuck bar stem help

Picked up a 1986 Miyata 912 that was in like new shape but I can't seem to get the bar stem loose.
I've sprayed though the bottom with PB Blaster and let it sit but it doesn't want to budge. Any recommendations?
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Pictures would help.

Did you loosen the center bolt and tap it downward to loosen the wedge? Also, after 30 years it's likely that there is some corrosion between the stem and the fork's steerer. Flipping the bike upside down, filling the inside of the steerer with PB Blaster, and letting it sit a couple days is what I would do.
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Originally Posted by Jeff Wills
Pictures would help.

Did you loosen the center bolt and tap it downward to loosen the wedge? Also, after 30 years it's likely that there is some corrosion between the stem and the fork's steerer. Flipping the bike upside down, filling the inside of the steerer with PB Blaster, and letting it sit a couple days is what I would do.
I did loosen the center bolt and whacked it several times.I turned it upside down and sprayed it and let it soak for 5 or 6 hours .I"ll take your advice and spray more and let it soak for a couple days. Here's a photo of it
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If corrosion has caused the wedge to stick it will likely take a LOT more that a tap to dislodge it, although it would be prudent to try that first. In either case after a PB Blaster (or better, Kano Kroil) treatment I would suggest removing the wheel and supporting the fork crown with something like a piece of 2x4 securely clamped on its edge to a solid object, with the fork ends off of the floor to avoid damaging them. This will also cause the force not to be dissipated in the tire or flexing of the fork blades. Then, back the stem bolt out a turn or so and hit it HARD with something heavy like a hand sledge to break the wedge loose. You need to generate enough peak force to break the wedge loose, repeated tapping may not reach sufficient levels of force.
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Originally Posted by dsbrantjr
If corrosion has caused the wedge to stick it will likely take a LOT more that a tap to dislodge it, although it would be prudent to try that first. In either case after a PB Blaster (or better, Kano Kroil) treatment I would suggest removing the wheel and supporting the fork crown with something like a piece of 2x4 securely clamped on its edge to a solid object, with the fork ends off of the floor to avoid damaging them. This will also cause the force not to be dissipated in the tire or flexing of the fork blades. Then, back the stem bolt out a turn or so and hit it HARD with something heavy like a hand sledge to break the wedge loose. You need to generate enough peak force to break the wedge loose, repeated tapping may not reach sufficient levels of force.
Exactly this. You can tell from how the quill bolt head is above the stem that it hasn’t been hit hard enough. The only thing I might add is perhaps a hardwood block between hammer and bolt so you don’t deform the bolt head.
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A dead blow hammer would be best.
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Take the handlebars, front brake caliper and, front wheel off. Hang the bike from the ceiling over a plastic drip pan. Start basting the head tube with diesel fuel. Wait a day or two. Then, it's Hammer Time!
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How far do I have to loosen the center bolt before I whack it?
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Originally Posted by robertj298
How far do I have to loosen the center bolt before I whack it?
I'd say only about a quarter inch. If you can get the wedge to budge by even a fraction of a mm, you've won the battle. You want the bolt to still be threaded into the wedge. You should be able to drive the bolt head all the way back into the stem.

Now, once you've gotten that far, the stem might slide out easily, or it might still be stubborn if there's a lot of corrosion in there, but at least that's another battle.
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Thanks guys. I let it soak for 2 days with PB Blaster .Straddled the crown of the fork with a 2X6 and 1 whack with a 4 lb. hammer loosened it right up. Thanks again
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Thanks guys. I let it soak for 2 days with PB Blaster .Straddled the crown of the fork with a 2X6 and 1 whack with a 4 lb. hammer loosened it right up. Thanks again
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