How come hardly any bikes posted here have pumps?
08-27-18, 03:15 PM
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Most ran through my head scrolling down the page. Unfortunately, there are some things you just can't unsee. ;-)
To stay on topic, I carry a small bag in my jersey pocket with the essentials. Pump, tube, tire levers, patch kit, credit card, $20, driver's license.
To stay on topic, I carry a small bag in my jersey pocket with the essentials. Pump, tube, tire levers, patch kit, credit card, $20, driver's license.
08-27-18, 03:51 PM
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I love vintage pumps with a bike to match.
08-27-18, 04:12 PM
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In the US, I can't carry one that is accessible to thieves so it is always in my handlebar bag that unclips easily to carry. Need that also 'cause I can't leave a small seat bag on the bike 'cause it will be stolen too. I bought a small Lezyne pump and use Schwalbe Marathons that average a flat every 1.5 years. the new ones perhaps never. Anyway, even when travelling in more civilized countries I keep the pump in the bag so I don't knock it loose when riding or carrying the bike through rough stuff....I should sell my old Silca pumps.....
Mark Hillman
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Mark Hillman
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Yes, it is a bit of a pain to take it out and put it back, but it's really worth it having the thing completely out of sight.
It's a decent pump too, not cheap.
https://www.lezyne.com/product-hpumps-hp-litedrive.php
08-27-18, 05:00 PM
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I have lots of pumps and CO2, too. But on my daily rides I use the E.T. method. I call home. I've only had to do that twice in 7 years.
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08-27-18, 05:03 PM
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I have CO2 in my saddlebag and a small pump in my jersey pocket for when I flub the CO2 cartridge. If I had a touring or classic vintage bike, I would totally rock the frame pump.
08-28-18, 07:50 AM
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08-28-18, 07:54 AM
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Obsolete, I guess, but I sure like it when I need it.
08-28-18, 01:37 PM
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Ever hit a bump and knock your hands off the bars, and grab the cables to regain control?
That seems like something those cables would be really good for. But I don't know whether that would fall into the category of "obvious" or "non-obvious".
That seems like something those cables would be really good for. But I don't know whether that would fall into the category of "obvious" or "non-obvious".
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No pump, no tools, no water bottles.
My typical rides are less than two hours and I don’t live in the boondocks. I have plenty of friends or family members that have no issues picking me up on average once or twice a year and most importantly, I am not an accessory laden, spandex clad tenderfoot.
My typical rides are less than two hours and I don’t live in the boondocks. I have plenty of friends or family members that have no issues picking me up on average once or twice a year and most importantly, I am not an accessory laden, spandex clad tenderfoot.
08-28-18, 03:57 PM
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Couple CO2 carts and nozzle in the seat bag. Plus a patch kit and and extra tube. Btw.
08-28-18, 08:10 PM
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Of my four 'road' bikes, two have old school full-size Zefal HP frame pumps, and one has a mini (but also frame mounted). Fuji S-10S and Univega Viva Sport wear the full-size frame-mounted Zefals, and the Miyata 710 has a mini Topeak. The Uni touring doesn't have a dedicated pump -- yet. I haven't needed to use any of them in over 20 years since no flats on my commute ( but my patch kit has been replaced due to age at least four times!). But I have used the floor pump quite a but to fill tires to the correct pressure before rides, after fixing a pesky 'slow leak', or when putting on new tires/tubes.
Sorry, no pics of either Uni with pumps...
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Sorry, no pics of either Uni with pumps...
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08-29-18, 06:44 AM
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Simple: Pumps are smaller than they used to be
For some folks, “pump“ (other than a floor pump, that is) means “frame pump“. But, for a decade or two, mini-pumps have been growing in popularity. Less weight to carry, and a pump that lives in a bag won’t get stolen, and dirty, the way a frame pump does. I’m tempted to say, by the way, that anyone surprised not to see more frame pumps on bikes must not lock a bicycle up in a city very often!
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08-29-18, 08:55 AM
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No pump, no tools, no water bottles.
My typical rides are less than two hours and I don’t live in the boondocks. I have plenty of friends or family members that have no issues picking me up on average once or twice a year and most importantly, I am not an accessory laden, spandex clad tenderfoot.
My typical rides are less than two hours and I don’t live in the boondocks. I have plenty of friends or family members that have no issues picking me up on average once or twice a year and most importantly, I am not an accessory laden, spandex clad tenderfoot.
08-29-18, 09:04 AM
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Don't encourage him! I carry a pump + CO2 specifically so I don't have to inconvenience anyone. He bothers people on the internet, why would he not bother people in the real world?
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08-29-18, 09:23 AM
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I used to carry a pump, a Zefal HPx. The last time I saw it was right before it went under a truck tire after it jumped ship one time too many. Completely flattened. Since then it's been co2 in the seat bag.
08-29-18, 03:18 PM
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Full sized frame pumps only look right on classic styled frames. I've carried a mid sized pump on a bottle cage mount but lately I keep a mini-pump in the seat pack or a bigger pump in my CamelBak on my MTB.
08-30-18, 08:06 PM
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08-30-18, 09:20 PM
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cable loops make a good place to carry your french bread loaf.
08-30-18, 10:06 PM
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The main effect of the new cable routing was that it created more freedom for placing the brake lever pivot.
The old levers are very similar to flat-bar brake levers. The location where the cable enters the brake hood means that, in order for a lever squeeze to pull cable, the pivot has to be positioned in the middle of the brake hood body. This is fine when braking from the drops, but it means that in order to actuate the lever when riding on the hoods, your hands have to "push the lever down" as much as squeeze it. This makes braking from the hoods much clumsier and weaker. Shown below, red is the lever and purple is more or less what your hands do when braking from the hoods:
In modern levers, because the cable comes from below, the pivot can be located on the main part of the lever, allowing for a more natural squeeze actuation when riding on the hoods.
(Some would argue that easier braking on the hoods leads to bad riding habits.
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There are some ergonomic implications of the new cable routing. Most notably, if you're using a hand position that sticks your arms out underneath the cables (such as phantom aerobars, or holding onto the inside of the hoods while resting your forearms on the tops), you need to take care to pull your hand back and out from the cables before moving it to another hand position. (If you forget to do so, and your hand bops the brake cables, it's not fun.)
Between the easier braking from the hoods, and the integration of shifters to the hoods, the "hoods" hand position has become a lot more of a primary hand position than it used to be. Non-aero hoods are best thought of as a grip nub, while modern aero hoods have become big handrests.
As woodcraft noted, non-aero cable routing is more amenable to a bicycle that is turned upside-down.
(As woodcraft also noted, you probably don't have a good reason to turn a bicycle upside-down anyway.)
The main advantage of non-aero levers is that they look really good on most vintage bikes.
The functional advantage of non-aero levers is that the handlebar wrapping and the brake cable routing have nothing to do with each other. No need to mess with handlebar tape when messing with brake routing. (For old road bikes that had downtube or stem shifters, there was no shifter housing under the bar tape either.)
08-31-18, 10:25 AM
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I correctly described identified your friends and relatives willingness to answer your periodic rescue (from your laziness/refusal to plan for likely flats) calls as naive. You may prefer to think of them as gullible, if not suckers.
