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Old 02-18-20, 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by genec View Post
OK, true.

Except the thread wasn't really about a question it was "how to do it" not "how can it be done," so more rhetorical than anything else... and focused on the issue of the "art" mentio ed in the OP.

But, the thread has shifted... and you are correct.

Your application, however is expensive, and requires a constant power source. What my old neighborhood did was pretty cost effective.

So going down that path of bollard protected neighborhoods... I recall the whole central core of Oulu Finland being car free... I don't recall barriers... seems like there must have been something. I also recall two blocks of Rue Cler in Paris, and the Latin quarter as being car free.
I appreciate working with what you got and your personal heroics. I was just trying to point out that the fire code doesn't need to be a problem.

Moving bollards are mostly used in area's where there might be confusion or temptation in drivers. Car free isn't always legally car free but if there are no decent access roads, cars have nowhere to park and have to drive around for hours to get out you won't see many of them.
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Old 02-19-20, 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Seattle Forrest View Post
I've been told cars with inbuilt GPS navigation systems lose value more quickly, because they're expensive to update. Seattle has been revising traffic (making some roads one way etc) for the past several years and either you buy an overpriced update, or you're in a blind leading the blind situation when you actually need help navigating.

The last time I used a cue sheet on a bike, a gale force wind took it from me, and I had to rely on my own wits. Amazing I made it out alive!
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I got a map holder I can wear on my forearm, or my thigh, whichever is most convenient. It works on my arm for biking (it's made for motorcycles). If you want a paper map, it's nice to have on your arm, although it's a little uncomfortable. Touratech makes one that works on motorcycle handlebars now that could probably be made to work on a bicycle.
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Old 02-19-20, 09:43 AM
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Back in my touring days I had a handlebar bag that was rather rectangular, a heavy wire frame over the bars held it in place. On the top of this bag was a clear "window," under which I could place a paper map. It worked pretty well. It did not follow me along like a GPS, and required me to stop to get a good look... but heck, while loaded touring I only moved at about 12-14MPH anyway.
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Old 02-19-20, 04:34 PM
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Not quite a 100 years ago the state of Wa designated significant areas of SW Wa beaches as “state highways” as they were primary routes of access before roads became common. Weather, seasons, clam tides and tides in general tend to limit motor vehicle access. This is pretty typical. My FatBike as a highway bike LOL.

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That should work.
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