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Old 03-17-20, 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Iride01 View Post
I wonder if they change gloves for every test they give at these drive through covid testing stations?
Speaking of gloves, one of my co-workers went to a bakery yesterday and all customers were required to use disposable gloves while shopping there. The store provided different sizes of gloves.
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Originally Posted by Happy Feet View Post
That's a good read.

Unfortunately, on the same social feeds you will get stuff like drinking warm water helps reduce infection, holding your breath for 10 seconds is a good diagnostic test and that it is all a big conspiracy by (pick your favorite villian).

Government of Canada Health Minister and staff are giving daily updates each day at noon.
No, it's not the flu and no, it's not like the flu either.:
https://www.propublica.org/article/a...young-patients

And that wasn't a social feed website that had that post. It's a bonafide news site with paid staff and very, very good reporting. They do print some letters to the editor if he thinks they are enlightening.
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Old 03-24-20, 12:08 AM
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Six days later you dredge up the thread to say that?
You must be bored.

I'll let you argue semantics with yourself. It seems the rest of have sorted the disconnect out.

FWIW. The 1918 influenza killed seemingly healthy young people too. You should read some history first if you really want to argue against it.
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Speaking of gloves, one of my co-workers went to a bakery yesterday and all customers were required to use disposable gloves while shopping there. The store provided different sizes of gloves.
I went to my local package store (Liquor store for you non-New Englanders) and the owner had a hand sanitizer machine at the front door. Everyone required to use it.
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Old 03-24-20, 08:29 AM
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Everyone should have some sanitizer with them in their car, for trips where you touch surfaces like gas pumps, shopping carts, pin pads, elevator buttons etc...

A local winery is now making 70% ethanol sanitizer in 500ml bottles and giving them free to front line health care workers for personal use. We already have lots at work but the shelves are bare in the stores. We don't want pilfering from work so that source is a blessing to us. The amount of sanitizer and hand washing we do is phenomenal.
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Old 03-24-20, 09:18 AM
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finally got back on the bike & for approx. 2 hours, I was happy again

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Old 03-24-20, 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Happy Feet View Post
Everyone should have some sanitizer with them in their car, for trips where you touch surfaces like gas pumps, shopping carts, pin pads, elevator buttons etc...

A local winery is now making 70% ethanol sanitizer in 500ml bottles and giving them free to front line health care workers for personal use. We already have lots at work but the shelves are bare in the stores. We don't want pilfering from work so that source is a blessing to us. The amount of sanitizer and hand washing we do is phenomenal.
I have a small hand sanitizer and a box of nitrile gloves in my car. A local brewery is making hand sanitizer here in CT.
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Old 03-24-20, 12:39 PM
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I put a bottle of sanitizer in my jersey pocket along with a sanitary wipe in a small plastic bag.
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Old 03-24-20, 01:41 PM
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I went to the supermarket today and saw my first person with a mask. I am in northeast CT and CT has had one reported case as of this morning. There is not a hand sanitizer to be found around here. Since this is the off season I go to the gym 5 days/wk. I'm starting to wonder whether I should try to train at home. Just wondering it others are having their training affected by this situation.
Not where I live. The rain is what's hampering me.
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Old 03-28-20, 07:33 AM
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From what I understand, training is helpful WRT Covid-19 recovery (not clear that it affects transmission) in that it has a positive effect on lung function and immune system response. However at some point in intensity your immune system response is (temporarily) degraded.

Is there an error in my statement above and is this affecting anyone's training habits? I am having second thoughts about significantly increasing my riding mileage now that good weather is here - will probably do that slowly, however.

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Old 03-28-20, 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by DaveLeeNC View Post
From what I understand, training is helpful WRT Covid-19 recovery (not clear that it affects transmission) in that it has a positive effect on lung function and immune system response. However at some point in intensity your immune system response is (temporarily) degraded.

Is there an error in my statement above and is this affecting anyone's training habits? I am having second thoughts about significantly increasing my riding mileage now that good weather is here - will probably do that slowly, however.

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The latest research I've read said that the immune system degradation hypothesis was founded on misinterpreted data. The idea is that fewer T cells or whatever are seen in the blood following strenuous exercise, That latest hypothesis is that those cells have moved into tissues to be more directly available to neutralize pathogens. Or something like that. I wish I could remember . . . ah, found the link, here: https://www.sciencedaily.com/release...0420122807.htm
I don't know about recovery - has not been rigorously tested to my knowledge and probably won't be for a long time. But perhaps not as severe symptoms, or so we all hope. Morituri te salutamus.
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Old 03-28-20, 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Carbonfiberboy View Post
The latest research I've read said that the immune system degradation hypothesis was founded on misinterpreted data. The idea is that fewer T cells or whatever are seen in the blood following strenuous exercise, That latest hypothesis is that those cells have moved into tissues to be more directly available to neutralize pathogens. Or something like that. I wish I could remember . . . ah, found the link, here: https://www.sciencedaily.com/release...0420122807.htm
I don't know about recovery - has not been rigorously tested to my knowledge and probably won't be for a long time. But perhaps not as severe symptoms, or so we all hope. Morituri te salutamus.
Well DammitAll. I had the perfect excuse not to ramp up my training, and here you go throwing 'cold facts' on my plan :-)

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Old 03-28-20, 10:08 PM
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Well DammitAll. I had the perfect excuse not to ramp up my training, and here you go throwing 'cold facts' on my plan :-)

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I'm training like this never happened except for the little details like no coffee stops, few restrooms, more bushes, and more indoor rather than outdoor. I'm expecting to be able to ride events in July. Well, hoping, if I'm still around . . .
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Old 03-29-20, 12:01 PM
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I'm riding again. Avoiding the now crowded trail I used to normally ride. Newbie cyclist, walkers and joggers that don't know they are supposed to be on the right and pass left. Dog walkers in groups of three or four standing on the trail conversing, petting and kissing each others dogs. And etc.....

So I'm out on the open country roads. Hoping the UV from the sun is destroying the virus in any snot rockets and lugi's laying on the road before my tires sling them up on me and my bottles. <grin>.
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I'm training like this never happened except for the little details like no coffee stops, few restrooms, more bushes, and more indoor rather than outdoor. I'm expecting to be able to ride events in July. Well, hoping, if I'm still around . . .
I am less concerned about 'me still being around' than I am about the event I plan to ride in late Sept. actually happening this year. I live in a small town/rural area where Covid-19 is just now beginning to show up. And my target ride is in a similar area. While I am optimistic that in the near term places like NYC will be under control. And I am optimistic that there will be no more disasters on that scale (in the US). But I think this will be an actively managed issue for a VERY LONG TIME - particularly in the more isolated areas. I'd say 50/50 as to whether this late Sept. event actually happens,

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I am less concerned about 'me still being around' than I am about the event I plan to ride in late Sept. actually happening this year. I live in a small town/rural area where Covid-19 is just now beginning to show up. And my target ride is in a similar area. While I am optimistic that in the near term places like NYC will be under control. And I am optimistic that there will be no more disasters on that scale (in the US). But I think this will be an actively managed issue for a VERY LONG TIME - particularly in the more isolated areas. I'd say 50/50 as to whether this late Sept. event actually happens,

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Umm . . . I think your priorities are misplaced. To ride the event or any event, you have to be alive. So need a plan for that. That plan should include the possibility of doing 6 Gap, whether that's a reasonable possibility or not. Good for your body and mind, which might be good for your immune system, too. I can't emphasize too much that at our age, just backing off for one season may be an irreparable loss of fitness. I'm experimenting with moving the majority of my training indoors. Seems to be working very,very well. Please sir, more intervals!

I hear you about NC. Before it hits the fan in any area, there is a period of denial by the inhabitants. I think that rather goes away once people know someone who's got it. However I'm optimistic also. NYC is a special case. There's nowhere like it in this country. News of what doesn't work is gradually spreading. A local choral group kept singing together and now most of them have it. Yes, doesn't need to be sneezing or coughing, just speaking or singing is enough. It can be aerosolized.
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Old 04-01-20, 04:18 PM
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Umm . . . I think your priorities are misplaced. To ride the event or any event, you have to be alive. So need a plan for that. That plan should include the possibility of doing 6 Gap, whether that's a reasonable possibility or not. Good for your body and mind, which might be good for your immune system, too. I can't emphasize too much that at our age, just backing off for one season may be an irreparable loss of fitness. I'm experimenting with moving the majority of my training indoors. Seems to be working very,very well. Please sir, more intervals!

I hear you about NC. Before it hits the fan in any area, there is a period of denial by the inhabitants. I think that rather goes away once people know someone who's got it. However I'm optimistic also. NYC is a special case. There's nowhere like it in this country. News of what doesn't work is gradually spreading. A local choral group kept singing together and now most of them have it. Yes, doesn't need to be sneezing or coughing, just speaking or singing is enough. It can be aerosolized.
One thing that greatly concerns me is losing fitness. I don't worry about 'missing a season'. I missed a week of training (unavoidable personal trip) back in January and I was quite worried about any fitness loss from that being permanent.

Like you I expect a gradual decline no matter what I do. And my sense of myself is that a serious fitness drop will not be 100% recovered. Unfortunately a moderate case of Covid-19 is probably a good example of that. So it is kind of a race between herd immunity and me getting C-19 (or a vaccine if that comes first). In the county where I live we need 10's of thousands of cases to achieve herd immunity. We don't even have 10 yet.

So just keep on pedaling. BTW, I do more indoors than I used to. But that is simply because my cold tolerance is way off from earlier years. And if I get lucky and the Sept. century ride actually happens and I stay healthy, I will be forced to do a bit of otherwise unnecessary indoor riding just for training purposes.

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ps. This is really irritating. I had another round of Hyaluronic Acid injections (osteo-arthritis in both knees) scheduled to start this week. Several weeks ago I called and postponed that by a month. It seemed prudent at the time as a 'full round' is 3 separate injections and medical facilities are not the best place to be right now. But it seems clear that it is going to be a long time before that is a safe option, so I guess I will go if/when the discomfort begins to affect my training. And it probably will at some point - I don't do these for the fun of it.
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One thing that greatly concerns me is losing fitness. I don't worry about 'missing a season'. I missed a week of training (unavoidable personal trip) back in January and I was quite worried about any fitness loss from that being permanent.

Like you I expect a gradual decline no matter what I do. And my sense of myself is that a serious fitness drop will not be 100% recovered. Unfortunately a moderate case of Covid-19 is probably a good example of that. So it is kind of a race between herd immunity and me getting C-19 (or a vaccine if that comes first). In the county where I live we need 10's of thousands of cases to achieve herd immunity. We don't even have 10 yet.

So just keep on pedaling. BTW, I do more indoors than I used to. But that is simply because my cold tolerance is way off from earlier years. And if I get lucky and the Sept. century ride actually happens and I stay healthy, I will be forced to do a bit of otherwise unnecessary indoor riding just for training purposes.

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ps. This is really irritating. I had another round of Hyaluronic Acid injections (osteo-arthritis in both knees) scheduled to start this week. Several weeks ago I called and postponed that by a month. It seemed prudent at the time as a 'full round' is 3 separate injections and medical facilities are not the best place to be right now. But it seems clear that it is going to be a long time before that is a safe option, so I guess I will go if/when the discomfort begins to affect my training. And it probably will at some point - I don't do these for the fun of it.
I've had two medical appointments - which I really wanted but not as big a deal as yours - postponed until June. Hah. If then.

Have you given glucosamine sulfate + MSM a good try? 2g of each/day. My wife and I have been doing this for 30 years or so. OTOH, neither of us has any kind of degenerative disease.
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Sadly yes, due to coronavirus I don't go ride as much as I used to do, but I have a dog and we have to go out anyway because I have no yard where he can do his things. We go out together for a small ride now, sometimes it's just a walk. I hope this situation will soon change.
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