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Old 03-29-20, 07:25 PM
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I'll keep my eyes peeled in the Bay Area, FWIW .
I know that shop and was in there in December to buy a gift for one of my peeps in Pas and Altadena...it goes 'way back.
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Old 03-29-20, 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Mad Honk View Post
The way some theft here works is whatever is stolen, it is pawned. Then six months later no one notices when it appears for sale, or the pawn ticket isn't paid and the pawn shop sells the item. I have half a box of Snap On tools purchased in pawn shops. Some are from mechanics that quit wrenching, some may be stolen, and some may be from guys who didn't pay their tool truck bills. But the pawn shop owners still have to list any purchases to the LEO, but not pawned items. Just a cheap way to fence by waiting. MH
In the city I live in, if your stolen property turns up in a pawn shop, you have to get law enforcement to show up, present your police report of stolen property, then BUY IT BACK from the pawn shop. The pawn shop is required to keep records of whom they bought items from, then you get wait for the court system to take scumbag to task over it, and order them to pay restitution. Care to guess how many times anyone here gets there item back from the pawn shop, AND their money back from the dirtbag?
Hurray for double victimization.
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Originally Posted by RobbieTunes View Post
While it would be fun, and I think well-deserved for looters, thieves, and many others, our society generally frowns on same. That being said, someone comes into my home and steals a bike, or a toaster, or a gallon of ice tea....yes, that someone would be shot, provided I can get them to face me, as shooting an intruder in the back just begs too many questions and gets demonstrators outside your door. Second-guessing is America's true pastime, over-reacting seems to come in a close second.

Shoot on sight orders are deterrence orders. I admire the restraint of store owners during Katrina, the Rodney King riots, etc. Shooting them as they entered the closed store would have quickly stopped that activity. Strictly a deterrent, and that's what they get for being first. In the long run, yes, vicious, dramatic, and violent. That's what seems to trigger hesitation these days. it's easy to debate why such "unfortunate" people are robbing, looting, stealing, later, but during the activity, no one knows the extent of their intent. So shooting works.

New York had a mayor named John Lindsay, who suggested during the Vietnam-era social violence that he'd set up machine guns on the corners and use them. That seemed to work as a deterrent fairly well.

In most civilized societies, there is no need for such violence. I've been to places where the only respected force is the quickest, most violent, and efficient force brought to bear. It happens. It addresses basic human logic in a basic human way. It also produces sour grapes and often delayed reactions that just escalate.
Well said.
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Originally Posted by rccardr View Post
Seems to me it would be easier for a garden variety bike thief to sell one of those Pinnies than that Cinelli....
...yeah. I don't understand the choice in this case either. Makes no sense from a resale standpoint.
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Old 03-30-20, 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by 3alarmer View Post
...yeah. I don't understand the choice in this case either. Makes no sense from a resale standpoint.
There was a Pinarello eBike stolen, too. Someone is going to need a charger for that thing pretty soon. I suspect the thieves weren't too bike savvy, but just grabbed what looked expensive.
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Originally Posted by dddd View Post
With this being a national emergency, maybe shoot-on-sight orders will be implemented?
No, in fact, the exact opposite is happening in California.
They are releasing convicts from the prisons.
They have decriminalized theft.

In California, if you were to shoot someone over theft of property that did not involve a threat against life, you would be up on attempted murder charges (or some such charge).
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Originally Posted by Bad Lag View Post
No, in fact, the exact opposite is happening in California.
They are releasing convicts from the prisons.
They have decriminalized theft.

In California, if you were to shoot someone over theft of property that did not involve a threat against life, you would be up on attempted murder charges (or some such charge).
...in before the move to P+R.
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Originally Posted by crank_addict View Post
Feel for the owner. I've had a few prized bikes stolen but zero confidence in LEO in these regards. To this day, the loss of the bikes are less of my thoughts but I'm highly irritated at the police WHOM work for us.
The police donít work for us.




This bike was clearly targeted.
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Originally Posted by Eric F View Post
There was a Pinarello eBike stolen, too. Someone is going to need a charger for that thing pretty soon. I suspect the thieves weren't too bike savvy, but just grabbed what looked expensive.
...I just bought a very similar Cinelli a couple of years ago here. Same pearl white in color and almost identical frame. I didn't need another bike, but after it sat on the local CL for almost a month at $1200 I finally had a weak moment and bought it. I guess you're probably right. Smash and grab thieves are not usually the most sophisticated criminals in the bunch.
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Originally Posted by 3alarmer View Post
...I just bought a very similar Cinelli a couple of years ago here. Same pearl white in color and almost identical frame. I didn't need another bike, but after it sat on the local CL for almost a month at $1200 I finally had a weak moment and bought it. I guess you're probably right. Smash and grab thieves are not usually the most sophisticated criminals in the bunch.
...fortunately, mine is a larger size frame.
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Originally Posted by The Golden Boy View Post
The police donít work for us.




This bike was clearly targeted.
Correct. They are the enforcement arm of "the man". We (the citizens) are not "the man".

And yes, the thieves were very likely working for a buyer. In no way was that a random theft. If it were, they would've made off with every modern bike they could've laid there hands on.
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Old 03-30-20, 05:11 PM
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Old 03-30-20, 08:28 PM
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We should start a thread for "Who here has personally ever had a bike stolen?..."

A shorter thread would be "...and has ever gotten it back"

Sad...


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Originally Posted by The Golden Boy View Post
The police donít work for us.




This bike was clearly targeted.
So true about the police. I had a pair of sunglasses with my take-a-look mirror fall off my bike here in the parking lot. A tenant walking by grabbed them. Wouldn't give them back so I called the police. Ten hours later they showed up, told me this guy has the proverbial as long as your arm file of raps and there was virtually nothing they could do even though I had witnesses to the theft. It wasn't much money except it happened at a time when I didn't have enough to replace them. I've had a few bicycles stolen over the sixty off years I've been riding and I've never had one returned to me.

BTW, the ONLY reason the police showed up about the sunglasses and the mirror was that the dispatcher heard the thief threatening me and my friend. Turns out the guy is a nut-case.

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Be interesting if this bike has tubulars and they are not glued, then the guy takes a fast corner with the bike so appearance assembled.

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Originally Posted by Cougrrcj View Post
We should start a thread for "Who here has personally ever had a bike stolen?..."

A shorter thread would be "...and has ever gotten it back"

Sad...


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...I was going to post a picture of mine, but then I was seized by irrational paranoia.
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As soon as the police hear “stolen bike” they have a good laugh and wait for the next call.
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Originally Posted by Cougrrcj View Post

We should start a thread for "Who here has personally ever had a bike stolen?..."

A shorter thread would be "...and has ever gotten it back"

Sad...
Definitely a short thread - this one never got past page one: Post your "Stolen but Recovered" stories

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I don’t know if the police here in Southern California will even take a report. Most of the time they send out volunteers and it is a formality with no teeth. I had mail stolen at my business with checks and some other personal information. The very next day my corporate checking account got frozen due to fraudulent activity. This forced me to fund my business with my personal account for almost two weeks while the bank sorted it out. The police sent volunteers to “take a report”. I called the postmaster and he contacted the Federal Fraud investigators in L.A. and they were furious that the police refused to show up and investigate. I think a bicycle is no more than an inconvenience to the police. I don’t carry a lock so I won’t be tempted to park my bike anywhere, the homeless know they can get away with stealing bikes without recourse and take full advantage, I passed one with a trailer and there were bolt cutters hanging out of the back!
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This story has been around

https://www.foxnews.com/us/californi...eating-youtube
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I don’t know if the police here in Southern California will even take a report. Most of the time they send out volunteers and it is a formality with no teeth. I had mail stolen at my business with checks and some other personal information. The very next day my corporate checking account got frozen due to fraudulent activity. This forced me to fund my business with my personal account for almost two weeks while the bank sorted it out. The police sent volunteers to “take a report”. I called the postmaster and he contacted the Federal Fraud investigators in L.A. and they were furious that the police refused to show up and investigate. I think a bicycle is no more than an inconvenience to the police. I don’t carry a lock so I won’t be tempted to park my bike anywhere, the homeless know they can get away with stealing bikes without recourse and take full advantage, I passed one with a trailer and there were bolt cutters hanging out of the back!
Keep in mind that this was more than a couple of stolen bicycles from a public area. It was also burglary of a business.

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Originally Posted by grizzly59 View Post
As soon as the police hear ďstolen bikeĒ they have a good laugh and wait for the next call.
Burglary of a business gets them to show up. It might not change the outcome, but the cops at least peel their butts out of their chairs.
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Maybe with a burglary where the business is broken into, it would be different, I would hope. I have several classic and vintage racing bikes here at my shop and I keep my warehouse door closed so the homeless and whoever else can't see what I have. I have no doubt that a smash and grab could happen in this area. It is industrial and the city of Ventura has deemed it a homeless shelter zone(lucky me!) . Since then , broken down RV's and people living on the streets in their vehicles or simply on side walks. Most have bicycles that are rattle canned and disguised so they can't be identified. Fortunately they favor mountain bikes and beach cruisers.
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Maybe with a burglary where the business is broken into, it would be different, I would hope. I have several classic and vintage racing bikes here at my shop and I keep my warehouse door closed so the homeless and whoever else can't see what I have. I have no doubt that a smash and grab could happen in this area. It is industrial and the city of Ventura has deemed it a homeless shelter zone(lucky me!) . Since then , broken down RV's and people living on the streets in their vehicles or simply on side walks. Most have bicycles that are rattle canned and disguised so they can't be identified. Fortunately they favor mountain bikes and beach cruisers.
It breaks my heart to think that this Cinelli has been rattle-canned and is being mistreated...but it's pretty likely.
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Originally Posted by Bad Lag View Post
No, in fact, the exact opposite is happening in California.
They are releasing convicts from the prisons.
They have decriminalized theft.

In California, if you were to shoot someone over theft of property that did not involve a threat against life, you would be up on attempted murder charges (or some such charge).
I was commenting more on where a high enough level of looting activity might bring on threats from officials, as has been done from time to time.

Even with just the social-distancing being ignored, serious enough that the Phillipine President apparently making very clear that they are not fooling around wrt their emergency declaration! The idea perhaps being the same, that a threat to violator's lives might save lives(?).

https://www.nydailynews.com/coronavi...=chartbeat-flt
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