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Old 04-06-20, 10:32 AM
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How many times have you had your shoe hit the front wheel when doing a track stand or similar? It almost took my down a few times. I went down to a smaller frameset and this is what happens. I am not looking to change to a shorter crankset. I just need to be more careful when I am in a track stand.
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Old 04-06-20, 10:54 AM
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That was part of the reason I went with an endurance geo on the new bike, no more toe overlap (plus the longer wheelbase and front center is more stable, less twitchy).
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Old 04-06-20, 11:02 AM
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this topic has been discussed many many times.

https://www.bikeforums.net/road-cycl...-question.html

https://www.google.com/search?q=toe+...w=1904&bih=903
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I've never had toe overlap on any bike I've had and my shoe size is 49. But I can't do a trackstand anyway.
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I definitely get toe overlap on my TCR. I got it on my MadOne as well, but it wasn't as bad. Once I got used to where my foot needed to be during trackstands it was smooth sailing. Steep learning curve though.
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Maybe once or twice... but I don't really even notice or care

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No toeverlap on my older road bikes, but those frames were designed for long haul road races or time trials and have reasonably long wheelbases and fork rakes. The 170 and 172.5 cranks may help but I'm not sure even a 175 crank would cause toe overlap with my size 45 shoes clipped in. I know I've done plenty of wobbly track stands and if toeverlap was gonna happen I'd have fallen already.

I just checked my hybrid with platform pedals and 175 cranks, still no toeverlap. It has a longer wheelbase and old school curved fork. And it's a 58 or 60cm frame, and my optimal size is 56cm.

My mid-2000s Globe Carmel hybrid does have toe overlap, but the frame is just a little small for me. Kinda deceptive looking frame. It seems huge and has a long wheelbase, but most of the excess length is in the rear. It looks like a Yuba cargo bike. My guess is Globe (a sub-brand of Specialized) was planning to make this frame into an ebike but changed their minds and discontinued the Globe lineup a couple of years later. I did knock my feet with the front wheel a few times but I always used platform pedals with that bike so no big deal. Just a bit startling the first few times it happened.

Not sure about the 2011-2014 era Diamondback Podium frame I'm putting together. It has 175 cranks. The fork is off right now while I'm servicing the headset. I'll need to be careful with it the first ride to check for toe overlap.
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Learn how to ratchet the pedals when doing pure steering.
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Never happens as I retrained my body when I learned to track stand. Was right foot forward when stopped before. Now left foot forward and wheel turned left. Yes, even a cranky old fart can learn this. I was 60 when I learned - indoor cycling one winter, in my work shop, wood stove pushing back the cold and snow.

OP, try retraining your feet.
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