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Road Cycling It is by riding a bicycle that you learn the contours of a country best, since you have to sweat up the hills and coast down them. Thus you remember them as they actually are, while in a motor car only a high hill impresses you, and you have no such accurate remembrance of country you have driven through as you gain by riding a bicycle. -- Ernest Hemingway

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Old 04-08-20, 06:50 AM
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56 cm Cervelo C2 Navy/tangerine.
Stoked!!!!
Wow!
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I'm not listing songs from my HS days, you people would laugh and call me old.
what do you mean, "You people"?
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congrats, and hell yeah!
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Someone needs to try this, and let me know if it's any good.
has to be , its Dale approved
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The bands from my HS era were the Stones, Beatles, Doors, Moody Blues, Hendrix, Cream, Deep Purple, Animals, Led Zeppelin, Steppenwolf, Kinks, Hollies, REO Speedwagon, just to name a few. I don't think I could pick any favorite single songs. It was a magic time to live through with a lot of wild stuff happening daily and also that thing going on over in SE Asia. Exciting and scary times, both. Glad that I lived it and yes, I do remember it.
This was pretty much what was on the radio station I listened to from middle school thru high school. I don't really have 3 favorites, so I just picked some.
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has to be , its Dale approved
Is this the modern day equivalent of "Boone's Farm"?
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Of course, I wouldn't take any physical recordings with me. It's all in my head.
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has to be , its Dale approved
'Cuse rose is intimidating.
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Someone needs to try this, and let me know if it's any good.
Bottles of wine already go fast enough in my house.
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cuz it's a winner!
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Originally Posted by bampilot06 View Post
New Bike Ordered!!!!!
56 cm Cervelo C2 Navy/tangerine.
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We will need pics, of course.
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Originally Posted by Trsnrtr View Post
I'm not listing songs from my HS days, you people would laugh and call me old.
we already do that.
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I just did another virtual ride on Zwift.

I have a question for people who have trained more with power. I notice that I can ride say "easy-all day" at something like Zone 2, no problem....Zone 3, mildly hard but can still maintain for a long time. Getting into Zone 4 is fine for a few minutes but I can't sustain it indefinitely, and of course Zone 5 is short term. I think that's "normal."

The problem is on Zwift, sometimes there is a sprint or a hill and I have to go beyond Zone 5, say 140-200% of FTP. I do that as best I can for several seconds to bridge the gap or not get dropped....but once I do that effort, even staying in Zone 3 is hard for me. I feel totally shot and have to drop to Zone 1 for a few minutes to recover. What happens on Zwift is that I burn matches, bridge the gap, only to get dropped because I can't maintain Zone 2/3.

It's hard to say how much of this weakness is mental and how much is physiologic, I suspect it's both.

Any comments or advice?
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Originally Posted by datlas View Post
I just did another virtual ride on Zwift.

I have a question for people who have trained more with power. I notice that I can ride say "easy-all day" at something like Zone 2, no problem....Zone 3, mildly hard but can still maintain for a long time. Getting into Zone 4 is fine for a few minutes but I can't sustain it indefinitely, and of course Zone 5 is short term. I think that's "normal."

The problem is on Zwift, sometimes there is a sprint or a hill and I have to go beyond Zone 5, say 140-200% of FTP. I do that as best I can for several seconds to bridge the gap or not get dropped....but once I do that effort, even staying in Zone 3 is hard for me. I feel totally shot and have to drop to Zone 1 for a few minutes to recover. What happens on Zwift is that I burn matches, bridge the gap, only to get dropped because I can't maintain Zone 2/3.

It's hard to say how much of this weakness is mental and how much is physiologic, I suspect it's both.

Any comments or advice?
How does this feel relative to on-road exertions?

A part of it is how you're built, a part is how you train. The speed with which I recover from aerobic efforts is one of my big yardsticks for fitness - it's a very notable difference between early season and late summer.
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I got the call from my employer today, and I've been furloughed.

I'll be fine financially(in theory) if this doesn't last more than 6 months, but what am I supposed to do with all this free time?
Heard this from too many people already. Let's hope it doesn't.

I'm working and I've been riding so much I already need a rest week.
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How does this feel relative to on-road exertions?

A part of it is how you're built, a part is how you train. The speed with which I recover from aerobic efforts is one of my big yardsticks for fitness - it's a very notable difference between early season and late summer.
Seems the big problem is recovering from ANAEROBIC efforts.
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Originally Posted by datlas View Post
I just did another virtual ride on Zwift.

I have a question for people who have trained more with power. I notice that I can ride say "easy-all day" at something like Zone 2, no problem....Zone 3, mildly hard but can still maintain for a long time. Getting into Zone 4 is fine for a few minutes but I can't sustain it indefinitely, and of course Zone 5 is short term. I think that's "normal."

The problem is on Zwift, sometimes there is a sprint or a hill and I have to go beyond Zone 5, say 140-200% of FTP. I do that as best I can for several seconds to bridge the gap or not get dropped....but once I do that effort, even staying in Zone 3 is hard for me. I feel totally shot and have to drop to Zone 1 for a few minutes to recover. What happens on Zwift is that I burn matches, bridge the gap, only to get dropped because I can't maintain Zone 2/3.

It's hard to say how much of this weakness is mental and how much is physiologic, I suspect it's both.

Any comments or advice?
I also experience Zwift as harder than the road, but I do most of my stuff in erg mode, which is totally unforgiving and I suspect output on the road is much more variable and full of micro rests. OTOH, my HR on the road can average lower Zone 5 for an hour and feel like nothing, whereas on Zwift it would be big effort. I think the only definitive answer can come from a power tap for the road bike and I'm not there yet.
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Seems the big problem is recovering from ANAEROBIC efforts.
Don't you think it's because you can't effectively lighten your load? At least that's what I always feel when on a trainer. It's that constant pressure all the time even when you try to ease up.
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This was pretty much what was on the radio station I listened to from middle school thru high school. I don't really have 3 favorites, so I just picked some.
FTR, I graduated HS in 1969. I'm not sure anyone here is older than me. Billy? Seeds?
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Head out on the highway
Lookin' for adventure
And whatever comes our way


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Seems the big problem is recovering from ANAEROBIC efforts.
I dumb. That's what I meant. So does it feel similar to when you're on the road or worse?
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what do you mean, "You people"?
What do YOU mean "You people."?


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Originally Posted by bampilot06 View Post
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That's a whole lotta bike. You sure you're ready?

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That's a whole lotta bike. You sure you're ready?

Welcome to the elite.
Addiction/VA/Cervelo ride meet-up.

You know - if the zombies don't get us first.
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FTR, I graduated HS in 1969. I'm not sure anyone here is older than me. Billy? Seeds?
holy halibut, I was 6
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