Frames with short reach and a lot of stack?
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Frames with short reach and a lot of stack?
I'm a tall guy with a short torso and I'm trying to make a list of everything that might fit me. Here's what I'm looking for:
Seat angle >= 73
Head angle >= 72
Seat tube length >= 500
Reach <= 375
Stack >= 600
Chainstay >= 420
Tire clearances >= 28
And here are a few models I've found that qualify, more or less:
Canyon Endurance
DB Century
DB Airen (F)
Fuji Gran Frondo
Fuji Sportif
Fuji Brevet (F)
Giant Defy
Norco Search
Raleigh Revere (F)
Raleigh Merit
Scott Contessa Solace / Speedster (F)
Scott Solace / Speedster
Specalized Crux
Trek Domane (H2)
Can you think of anything I've missed? The closest match I see Scott's Contessa Solace (except for the mega-short chainstays), followed by the Fuji Sportif. Nothing is exactly right so far. I'm open to Chinese frames as well.
Seat angle >= 73
Head angle >= 72
Seat tube length >= 500
Reach <= 375
Stack >= 600
Chainstay >= 420
Tire clearances >= 28
And here are a few models I've found that qualify, more or less:
Canyon Endurance
DB Century
DB Airen (F)
Fuji Gran Frondo
Fuji Sportif
Fuji Brevet (F)
Giant Defy
Norco Search
Raleigh Revere (F)
Raleigh Merit
Scott Contessa Solace / Speedster (F)
Scott Solace / Speedster
Specalized Crux
Trek Domane (H2)
Can you think of anything I've missed? The closest match I see Scott's Contessa Solace (except for the mega-short chainstays), followed by the Fuji Sportif. Nothing is exactly right so far. I'm open to Chinese frames as well.
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I'm a tall guy with a short torso and I'm trying to make a list of everything that might fit me. Here's what I'm looking for:
Seat angle >= 73
Head angle >= 72
Seat tube length >= 500
Reach <= 375
Stack >= 600
Chainstay >= 420
Tire clearances >= 28
And here are a few models I've found that qualify, more or less:
Canyon Endurance
DB Century
DB Airen (F)
Fuji Gran Frondo
Fuji Sportif
Fuji Brevet (F)
Giant Defy
Norco Search
Raleigh Revere (F)
Raleigh Merit
Scott Contessa Solace / Speedster (F)
Scott Solace / Speedster
Specalized Crux
Trek Domane (H2)
Can you think of anything I've missed? The closest match I see Scott's Contessa Solace (except for the mega-short chainstays), followed by the Fuji Sportif. Nothing is exactly right so far. I'm open to Chinese frames as well.
Seat angle >= 73
Head angle >= 72
Seat tube length >= 500
Reach <= 375
Stack >= 600
Chainstay >= 420
Tire clearances >= 28
And here are a few models I've found that qualify, more or less:
Canyon Endurance
DB Century
DB Airen (F)
Fuji Gran Frondo
Fuji Sportif
Fuji Brevet (F)
Giant Defy
Norco Search
Raleigh Revere (F)
Raleigh Merit
Scott Contessa Solace / Speedster (F)
Scott Solace / Speedster
Specalized Crux
Trek Domane (H2)
Can you think of anything I've missed? The closest match I see Scott's Contessa Solace (except for the mega-short chainstays), followed by the Fuji Sportif. Nothing is exactly right so far. I'm open to Chinese frames as well.
I have a similar list, but added:
Focus Paralane
GT Grade
Merida Ride
Cannondale Synapse
I'd be interested in how you progress with your choice.
John
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You're even more of an outlier than me, I'm 6'1 with a 35.5" inseam.
The bikes I've found with the highest ratio of stack to reach (in the 56ish size, you're more likely looking for a 54 or less so the numbers may change) are:
Fuji Sportif
Giant Anyroad
Blue Prosecco
On One Bish Bash Bosh / Fezarri Shafer
Diamondback Airen
Scott Contessa Speedster / Solace
Specialized Ruby
The GT Grade in bigger sizes has a lot of stack, but the reach numbers in the smaller sizes aren't actually that short. That Focus is pretty interesting. Also the Merida, thanks.
The bikes I've found with the highest ratio of stack to reach (in the 56ish size, you're more likely looking for a 54 or less so the numbers may change) are:
Fuji Sportif
Giant Anyroad
Blue Prosecco
On One Bish Bash Bosh / Fezarri Shafer
Diamondback Airen
Scott Contessa Speedster / Solace
Specialized Ruby
The GT Grade in bigger sizes has a lot of stack, but the reach numbers in the smaller sizes aren't actually that short. That Focus is pretty interesting. Also the Merida, thanks.
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Similar weird build ... I just got a Fuji Sportif. It is a little heavier than I would have liked, but it fits well. On most bikes I take a 56 with as stretch ... On this i could have gone 58 with an 80-mm stem.
If I hadn't gotten such a good deal, I would have considered one of the others on your list but I got a fat percent-off ad at a moment of weakness.
If I hadn't gotten such a good deal, I would have considered one of the others on your list but I got a fat percent-off ad at a moment of weakness.
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Similar weird build ... I just got a Fuji Sportif. It is a little heavier than I would have liked, but it fits well. On most bikes I take a 56 with as stretch ... On this i could have gone 58 with an 80-mm stem.
If I hadn't gotten such a good deal, I would have considered one of the others on your list but I got a fat percent-off ad at a moment of weakness.
If I hadn't gotten such a good deal, I would have considered one of the others on your list but I got a fat percent-off ad at a moment of weakness.
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I do recall seeing some on-line site that supposedly told you which bikes had a certain geometry, but I can't recall where; it didn't seem to work very well, though - it didn't' find my Trek Crossrip, which isn't an uncommon bike.
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There is the perfect bike that showed up in Seattle recently.
Gitane Traveler (or Traveller).
https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vi...requested.html
Tall frame, short reach
Unfortunately, it looks like the ad has been deleted.
Gitane Traveler (or Traveller).
https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vi...requested.html
Tall frame, short reach
Unfortunately, it looks like the ad has been deleted.
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I found after an exhaustive search for a proper road racebike, the wsd Eddy Merckx Milano 72 had the ideal frame geo. Don't have my printed out frame geo charts handy, but there has been a very slight change in the frame geo over the last two/three years. By memory, the 2015? model had the best reach/stack (somewhere around low 360mm reach / 570+ stack).
The site you may? be thinking of could be Bicycle Counter Culture Stack and Reach chart. However that chart is more for touring/gravel/adventure-type bikes. Its a handy chart if you're after one of those type. Quite a few bikes listed, and keeps being added to by users.
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If you've got the cash$$$:- Parlee Altum, size 'ML Tall': reach376 / stack603.
73 seat tube angle / 73.5! head tube angle
Fits 28c
410mm! chainstays
If you've got the cash$$$:- Parlee Altum, size 'ML Tall': reach376 / stack603.
73 seat tube angle / 73.5! head tube angle
Fits 28c
410mm! chainstays
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Well, its frame stack is a bit short (591), but otherwise Trek's Domane Women's models (56 cm frame) might suit you.
Good hunting!
Good hunting!
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Good call on that Jamis. Another great choice.
I ended up buying a Raleigh Merit. This in particular:
Couldn't resist. It's $900 in Raleigh's online store for a nice carbon frame, discs, and Tiagra 4700 kit. The geometry is 85% of the way there (bit short in the stays, bit low in the front, but not too far off). They've got a nice return policy, so it seemed worth a dice roll. The green is growing on me.
I ended up buying a Raleigh Merit. This in particular:
Couldn't resist. It's $900 in Raleigh's online store for a nice carbon frame, discs, and Tiagra 4700 kit. The geometry is 85% of the way there (bit short in the stays, bit low in the front, but not too far off). They've got a nice return policy, so it seemed worth a dice roll. The green is growing on me.
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Stack 600mm; Reach 375mm
Snap! I'm looking for pretty much exactly the same thing :-) I am 177cm (5'9.5") with a 865-875mm (34-34.5") inseam, and find I need a lot of stack to avoid excessive bar drop, but don't have a super-long torso as a result.
I have a similar list, but added:
Focus Paralane
GT Grade
Merida Ride
Cannondale Synapse
I'd be interested in how you progress with your choice.
John
I have a similar list, but added:
Focus Paralane
GT Grade
Merida Ride
Cannondale Synapse
I'd be interested in how you progress with your choice.
John
It has now reached about 20,000 miles and is due for new bar tape, cables and rear mech. The BB lasted for 18,000 miles.
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Cervelo C3 or C5 (56cm)
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I crossed paths with a person that until we meant at the end of a climb I only knew him as a name on Strava. His long legs and short torso were such that he HAD to have a bike custom-built for him.
Good luck to the OP and all the other riders seeking the right bike plus fit.
Good luck to the OP and all the other riders seeking the right bike plus fit.
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https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Serotta-...IAAOSw7OdcVwzJ
This things been for sale for ages. It would actually fit me and make a nice rando bike with 28mm.
This things been for sale for ages. It would actually fit me and make a nice rando bike with 28mm.
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Trek domane has a really high stack as well. Actual Reach can easily be modified with shorter or longer stem.
Im not sure why you specified >72 degree head angle. I own a Fuji Sportif i 52 cm. It has 71.5 degree head angle and 60 mm trail, and it rides REALLY well.
I have ridden a Domane in 52 cm as well and it is sweet too.
Im not sure why you specified >72 degree head angle. I own a Fuji Sportif i 52 cm. It has 71.5 degree head angle and 60 mm trail, and it rides REALLY well.
I have ridden a Domane in 52 cm as well and it is sweet too.
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