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Old 02-25-21, 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by ls01
never assume. My Tarmac disk is a shade over 18 lbs.
Yeah, the Canyon and Bianchi are both somewhere between 18 and 19 lbs. They feel like feathers compared to the Ritchey and Battaglin, though.

I'm curious to see where the Cannondale ends up. The catalog says that model weighs in at 21 lbs, but that's with a triple. It's definitely not a flyweight, though.
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Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets
Since I probably won't get any framebuilding gear any time soon, I think I'll shift my focus.

My dream now is to track down one of these fabulous lighting fixtures:

I'd like 3 of the buckets for over a pool table.
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Originally Posted by abshipp
The Aethos is also gorgeous. I love how simple it is.
Something to be said for the aesthetics of round tubes and lack of aero-frippery.
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
A frequent theme in my nighttime dreams is I'm in college/graduate school and I have a project due which I've procrastinated on and I'm reaching the panic stage.

SMH.
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Originally Posted by big john
I haven't actually had it on an accurate scale, just the bathroom scale thing. It has a cf Kestrel fork with aluminum steerer and 36 spoke Open Pros and Ultegra triple group. I can feel the weight difference between it and the Seven which I think is about 3 pounds.
It would be nice to have a 15 or 16 pound bike but I would be wondering about what was going to break.

My circa 1991 Tesch is about 24 pounds.
Contador, with 23mm tires and 31mm Reynolds wheels is 15 lbs 5 oz. I climb with that thing, its solid as a girder.
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
OK, a couple nights ago I dreamed that the cat I had '90s - '00s was alive and I was worried about his health conditions and unexpectedly one of his rear legs fell off.

Is that weird enough?
Only If you ate it.
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
I never set aside a half hour block for "snack time."
V.V. doesn't do limits.
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Originally Posted by LAJ
You people need to talk real money or that metric crap. These posts that have both are confusing!

Speaking of, I went with the heavy frame from Focus. 850g. I like that bike.
850 gms? Remember to lift with your legs, lol

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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
I never set aside a half hour block for "snack time."
You'll get Cheetos dust all over your books if you snack and work at the same time!
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Originally Posted by ls01
both?
Two seems like a weird guess. If you can do one, you can probably do several.
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Originally Posted by genejockey
Something to be said for the aesthetics of round tubes and lack of aero-frippery.
Plus, all the tube intersections are so smooth. It's like the ultimate fillet brazing without the weight of all the brass.
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
Two seems like a weird guess. If you can do one, you can probably do several.
show your math please
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Originally Posted by ls01
Contador, with 23mm tires and 31mm Reynolds wheels is 15 lbs 5 oz. I climb with that thing, its solid as a girder.
When I started riding 25 years ago and weighed something like 210, I absorbed the idea that I needed things wheels with 32F/36R, straight-gauge spokes and such. So it's hard to believe a sub-16 lb bike wouldn't collapse under me like it was made of toothpicks and Elmer's Glue. Of course I know intellectually it won't. Still....
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
Two seems like a weird guess. If you can do one, you can probably do several.
Three and a half?
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The old Schwinn is around 24 pounds, in it's current iteration.
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Originally Posted by ls01
Contador, with 23mm tires and 31mm Reynolds wheels is 15 lbs 5 oz. I climb with that thing, its solid as a girder.
Those Reynolds wheels definitely help.
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Originally Posted by ls01
850 gms? Remember to lift with your legs, lol

You got it! I can lift the back of a Honda with my legs, but lifting a bike with just my arms.... Not so good.
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Originally Posted by genejockey
When I started riding 25 years ago and weighed something like 210, I absorbed the idea that I needed things wheels with 32F/36R, straight-gauge spokes and such. So it's hard to believe a sub-16 lb bike wouldn't collapse under me like it was made of toothpicks and Elmer's Glue. Of course I know intellectually it won't. Still....
I was 220# and I broke so much stuff (mostly wheels) it was ridiculous. Multiple saddle rails, seatposts, a stem, 4 frames, 3 pedals snapped off, and motorcycle suspension parts, too. Cracked the sole of one shoe and had another separate during a ride.
The part failures have slowed in the past few years, still cracked the rear wheels on the mtb and the Seven last year.
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
A frequent theme in my nighttime dreams is I'm in college/graduate school and I have a project due which I've procrastinated on and I'm reaching the panic stage.
It’s my understanding that variations of that dream are relatively common. Mine is that I’m signed up for a course I’ve never attended. I haven’t even bought the text book(s). The final exam is in a couple of weeks. I have to decide whether I try to learn enough to pass or lie to the professor by telling him I didn’t realize I was signed up with the hope that he’ll let me drop it.
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Originally Posted by big john
I was 220# and I broke so much stuff (mostly wheels) it was ridiculous. Multiple saddle rails, seatposts, a stem, 4 frames, 3 pedals snapped off, and motorcycle suspension parts, too. Cracked the sole of one shoe and had another separate during a ride.
The part failures have slowed in the past few years, still cracked the rear wheels on the mtb and the Seven last year.
You seem to be the place where bike parts go to die! Pretty sure you're riding A LOT MORE than me, but also a lot harder!

I did go through 2 aluminum stems on the Battaglin, but both had reputations for cracking. Luckily it didn't happen catastrophically. One stem I DIDN'T crack turned out to have been recalled one year after I bought it, but I didn't know that till I'd ridden the Ritchey with it for about 14 years!
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Originally Posted by genejockey
You seem to be the place where bike parts go to die! Pretty sure you're riding A LOT MORE than me, but also a lot harder!

I did go through 2 aluminum stems on the Battaglin, but both had reputations for cracking. Luckily it didn't happen catastrophically. One stem I DIDN'T crack turned out to have been recalled one year after I bought it, but I didn't know that till I'd ridden the Ritchey with it for about 14 years!
I read a Lennard Zinn article where he tried to answer why some riders broke more parts than others. He concluded certain riders have have such uneven power delivery that they flex things much more than normal, leading to metal fatigue. That could be a factor, but riding desert bikes taught me to lift the front wheel and let the rear slam into things. I do that and the road bike sometimes, oops.

p.s. I'm riding about 15 hours per week, sometimes a little less, road and off road combined. I would do more if I could recover better. Getting old sucks.

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Originally Posted by big john
I read a Lennard Zinn article where he tried to answer why some riders broke more parts than others. He concluded certain riders have have such uneven power delivery that they flex things much more than normal, leading to metal fatigue. That could be a factor, but riding desert bikes taught me to lift the front wheel and let the rear slam into things. I do that and the road bike sometimes, oops.
I have been practicing hopping over the expansion joints on a bridge on my Sunday route. Sometimes, it's perfect. Mostly, the rear wheel still hits, but not as hard as it would otherwise. I worried that somebody my size bunnyhopping might be bad for the bike, but not once have I come down with anything like the shock of just hitting the thing.
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I have been practicing hopping over the expansion joints on a bridge on my Sunday route. Sometimes, it's perfect. Mostly, the rear wheel still hits, but not as hard as it would otherwise. I worried that somebody my size bunnyhopping might be bad for the bike, but not once have I come down with anything like the shock of just hitting the thing.
Bunnyhopping is a hit and miss thing for me. Sometimes I land smoothly and impress myself, sometimes not.
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Originally Posted by big john
Bunnyhopping is a hit and miss thing for me. Sometimes I land smoothly and impress myself, sometimes not.
There are two on the bridge (because of course), and often I'll do it perfectly over one and bounce the back tire off the other. Rarely to I jump both just right. Last month, I hopped both joints perfectly in both directions. I felt inordinately proud of myself. Then I hit a rock 2 miles later and flatted.
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