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Old 02-24-20, 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Retro Grouch
Truth is, I don't really "need" a bike at all. I could survive without one but my quality of life would suffer. The short answer to your question is: I "need" to have however many gears it takes for me to feel like I'm having fun. There are clearly advantages to having lots.
I have little to contribute that hasn’t already been said, but thank you for calling out how meaningless the word “need” is in the context of recreational cycling. It rarely applies.
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Originally Posted by BlissfulAbyss71
WOW! 22 miles?! Im in New Orleans too, Thanks so much for explaining this. I just recently took a job in the CBD and none of the parking garages have clearance for my exceptionally tall van so Im trying to research alt travel methods lol. This helped a lot- I was wondering if multiple gears here in flatland was necessary.
The land may be flat but the wind makes a huge difference. A couple of of weeks ago I rode out and back on a level path. The "out" leg had a headwind I was only able to make about 11 or 12 MPH but on the way back I hit double those speeds with about the same level of effort. Wind can have the same effect as hills. If you ride in the wind you need gears
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I only need one, but it has to have a TANK and good tires.
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Originally Posted by ramzilla
I like good old 7 speed cog sets. They'll fit on 126mm & 130mm dropouts (with a spacer). and, they're cheap as dirt. Shimano and Microshift still make brand new shifters for them. And, If all else fails you can just connect friction shifters to them. What's not to love?
I just built up an older bike with a 2x7 system. Compared to 11spd components, 7spd was much less expensive. With 53x39 up front, I did go with a 12-32 cassette. Having 24 gear inches in the lowest gear helps out with some of the longer hills in my area. And Microshift shifters just work. They never fail. I went with used wheels with an 11spd hub, but spacers are cheap too. For a 1995 modernized bike, I'm very happy with 14 speeds.
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Originally Posted by JanMM
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Mr.DNA, who asked the question, has not been active on BF since 2011.
Playing some Devo in honor of our OP, Mr. DNA :



My drivetrain bias should be apparent.
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Old 02-26-20, 09:31 AM
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Well, after riding around town some on my "new" old 10 speed, I can say that I only really stay on the smaller front gear. I use just about the lowest 5 gears, those are great. The overdrive gear is just too tall for my tastes in most situations, unless I'm going down a very steep hill and somehow want to go EVEN faster!
But it's at least nice to have the option. Good for cruising too.
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Originally Posted by JTSpeedDemon
Well, after riding around town some on my "new" old 10 speed, I can say that I only really stay on the smaller front gear. I use just about the lowest 5 gears, those are great. The overdrive gear is just too tall for my tastes in most situations, unless I'm going down a very steep hill and somehow want to go EVEN faster!
But it's at least nice to have the option. Good for cruising too.
But let's say some other person owned your bike. Let's say he is bigger and in better shape. He might write "I stay on the larger chain wheel and only drop to the smaller one on very steep hills". So the bike is built to accommodate not just different conditions and roads but different riders.

There is a huge difference in riders. I look at Stava segments ledger boards and see that the top riders are 4X faster than me on hills and 2X faster on flats. On a tropical segment near me, there might be 1,500 riders with posted times. The riders in the top 50 are dramatically different from those near the middle or the bottom and the bike manufacturers make the bikes to be usable by everyone. (Wind drag is the square of the speed, so it works out the best ones are 4X stronger overall)

So on this one hill, I use the lowest or second-lowest gear and ride up at 6 MPH the fastest person on the same road is going 26 MPH and does it as a sprint He is also less than half my age and rides 55 miles a day on average. Looking at online data I see far more variation of rider ability then I see in terrain difference gears are made to accommodate.
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Old 02-26-20, 11:08 AM
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^^True, true. Riders make a big difference.
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Originally Posted by JTSpeedDemon
Well, after riding around town some on my "new" old 10 speed, I can say that I only really stay on the smaller front gear. I use just about the lowest 5 gears, those are great. The overdrive gear is just too tall for my tastes in most situations, unless I'm going down a very steep hill and somehow want to go EVEN faster!
But it's at least nice to have the option. Good for cruising too.
It can be nice to have those higher gears if/when your fitness level improves a lot. I have a single speed that at the beginning of the season is pretty highly geared but a month or so into the season I can spin that same gear very easily.

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on flat surfaces, I like to ride my road bike like its a fixie, but on steep inclines - I'm often reaching for another gear, especially now at the beginning of the season
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I need a Pinion P.18 mated to the SA 3speed Cassette hub with an 11 speed cassette on there (probably the EDCO 10 speed compatible one) Just want a few gears for cruising around town. While 594 may seem like not enough to most people almost like running a single speed or something I think I could make it work. It is a shame I couldn't get a Rohloff hub that has a Microspline freehub instead of a pesky cog, that would give me a few extra gears for climbing.
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Old 02-29-20, 07:28 PM
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I think I replied to the OP 16 years ago, when this thread first started. Back then, I was probably using five of my 20 gear combinations. These days, I'm probably only using four, but you have to adjust for inflation.
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Or... you could just wuss out for "e-" speed....
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Originally Posted by Mr. DNA
Can anyone tell me what the advantage is to having a 9, or even an 8 speed bike is? Likewise with a triple chainring in the front? I'm assuming I'm missing out on something really basic about gearing, but I don't quite understand the need for so many cogs, or especially for 3 chain rings.
Thanks for the feedback
Can anyone tell me why this should be a concern of anyone but the one considering "upgrading"?
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Old 03-01-20, 01:27 PM
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its more about gear ratio than from speeds, speeds config is more to dont let jump so much about gear ratios of your bike, each speed is a gear ratio, search : sheldon brown gear calc

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