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Old 11-05-15, 12:00 PM
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I think I'm more ok with satanists to tell you the truth.

Its not really the doping that bugs me about Lance, it's how much of an ahole he was to his friends, teammates, and anyone around him that wouldn't go along with his lie.

Anyway, Lance is old news.
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Originally Posted by SpeshulEd
I think I'm more ok with satanists to tell you the truth.

Its not really the doping that bugs me about Lance, it's how much of an ahole he was to his friends, teammates, and anyone around him that wouldn't go along with his lie.

Anyway, Lance is old news.
Yeah this, not only was he an ahole, he tried to ruin their lives.
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Yeah this, not only was he an ahole, he tried to ruin their lives.

Sure, but of course from his perspective these certain individuals were trying to do the same to him. They could have just minded their own business, as the culture of cycling omertà always assured. Cyclists have always known they must dodge the authorities, but they previously didn't need to worry about being outed by wives of teammates, and teammates who had been busted and we're looking to make deals to save their own ass, and insurance company hearings and all this other crap. It was an extraordinary situation.
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It's hard to mind your own business when you're subpoenaed to testify. No one said **** about Lance until he tried to ruin their lives.

He had his teammates that wouldn't dope removed from the team. He tried to destroy Greg Lemond because Greg said he wasn't suffering on the hill climbs like the other racers were, just a random comment and Lance tells the press he's an alcoholic drug user. He ratted out people he didn't like for doing the same thing he was doing. He was untouchable for a very long time. He had the UCI in the palm of his hand and anyone he didn't like went down.

It is honestly, complete bull****. His fall from fame and the hatred he endures from his fans on a daily basis is well deserved.
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Sure, but of course from his perspective these certain individuals were trying to do the same to him. They could have just minded their own business, as the culture of cycling omertà always assured. Cyclists have always known they must dodge the authorities, but they previously didn't need to worry about being outed by wives of teammates, and teammates who had been busted and we're looking to make deals to save their own ass, and insurance company hearings and all this other crap. It was an extraordinary situation.
Of course, there are those who believe that it was Lance who dimed out both Hamilton and Landis.
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Originally Posted by SpeshulEd
It's hard to mind your own business when you're subpoenaed to testify. No one said **** about Lance until he tried to ruin their lives.

He had his teammates that wouldn't dope removed from the team. He tried to destroy Greg Lemond because Greg said he wasn't suffering on the hill climbs like the other racers were, just a random comment and Lance tells the press he's an alcoholic drug user. He ratted out people he didn't like for doing the same thing he was doing. He was untouchable for a very long time. He had the UCI in the palm of his hand and anyone he didn't like went down.

It is honestly, complete bull****. His fall from fame and the hatred he endures from his fans on a daily basis is well deserved.
Again, you speak the truth!

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Of course, there are those who believe that it was Lance who dimed out both Hamilton and Landis.
Lance could have helped Floyd, instead he hung him out to dry, multiple times. Floyd was told to deny deny deny, then received no support. Floyd suffered and just wanted to get back in racing, he asked for LA to throw him a bone, LA belittled him, then FLoyd went public with the truth. I am friend's with someone who is very close to Floyd, what happened is a shame, sure the whole Floyd Fairness Fund was over the top, Floyd was "coached" what to do and say after he got busted, then was given no support. Why do you think that is? Cause LA was jealous another American won the Tour.
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Originally Posted by SpeshulEd
It's hard to mind your own business when you're subpoenaed to testify. No one said **** about Lance until he tried to ruin their lives.

He had his teammates that wouldn't dope removed from the team. He tried to destroy Greg Lemond because Greg said he wasn't suffering on the hill climbs like the other racers were, just a random comment and Lance tells the press he's an alcoholic drug user. He ratted out people he didn't like for doing the same thing he was doing. He was untouchable for a very long time. He had the UCI in the palm of his hand and anyone he didn't like went down.

It is honestly, complete bull****. His fall from fame and the hatred he endures from his fans on a daily basis is well deserved.
Yep, +1.
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David Millar interview on Cyclingnews.com; The Cyclingnews Podcast: A conversation with David Millar | Cyclingnews.com

Talking a bit about his times with Garmin-Slipstream, getting dropped from the Tour team, WADA throwing Russia under the bus, and, of course, Tommy D.

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