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Old 09-12-19, 07:38 AM
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Salsa Woodsmoke with big front chainring?

I'll try to do what no one has ever done with Salsa Woodsmoke. I will change front chainring with 48T. All my driving is in the city and I'm using tires Schwalbe Super Moto 2.75x2.8. Please if someone has done something like this to write to me.
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Old 09-12-19, 09:08 AM
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You're derailleur probably won't accommodate that chainring size without getting a bigger chain.

Kind of a silly idea considering what the bike is supposed to be used for. Get yourself a rigid something or other for city use. I would suggest visiting the hybrid forum.
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Old 09-12-19, 09:36 AM
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48T might be a tad extreme, but since you don't have a front DR to worry about, simply adjust your chain length to accommodate and go for it. I've got a 48T that I've been threatening to put on one of my MTBs for almost a year now so I'd be curious to hear how it works out. Good luck,
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Originally Posted by prj71
You're derailleur probably won't accommodate that chainring size without getting a bigger chain.

Kind of a silly idea considering what the bike is supposed to be used for. Get yourself a rigid something or other for city use. I would suggest visiting the hybrid forum.
On Salsa site for this frame is written: Crankset (Max Ring) 1x crankset: 54t max Boost, 2x crankset: 36/24t max Boost
I like the fact that I have the ability to change it according to my needs. It is clear that I will have to install a longer chain as well.
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Old 09-14-19, 07:09 AM
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Today I send this mail to Salsa:

Hello,

My name is Stanislav Panayotov and I live in Sofia / Bulgaria. I want to buy one of your gorgeous Salsa Woodsmoke bikes, but I drive only in the city. I like my Schwalbe Super Moto X 27.5x2.8 plus tires - they work extremely well on my road. My current bike is NS Bikes Djambo 2 2017 with some mods. On it is not possible to set the largest than 36T chainring.

My question is about the capabilities of your frame to use on it a large front chainring up to 54T (that's too much for me), but maybe I'll try with 46T or 48T. What do you think? What crank and chainring for 1x do you recommend for this?

Greetings!

Let's see what they answer to me!
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Originally Posted by pcconsult
Today I send this mail to Salsa:

Hello,

My name is Stanislav Panayotov and I live in Sofia / Bulgaria. I want to buy one of your gorgeous Salsa Woodsmoke bikes, but I drive only in the city. I like my Schwalbe Super Moto X 27.5x2.8 plus tires - they work extremely well on my road. My current bike is NS Bikes Djambo 2 2017 with some mods. On it is not possible to set the largest than 36T chainring.

My question is about the capabilities of your frame to use on it a large front chainring up to 54T (that's too much for me), but maybe I'll try with 46T or 48T. What do you think? What crank and chainring for 1x do you recommend for this?

Greetings!

Let's see what they answer to me!
Woa nelly partner. 48T chainring and 10T on the rear cassette with those tires is a 137 inch gear. You might be able to spin that out at 45mph. (72 kmh)
32T chainring in front with 10T rear is a 91 inch gear. Quite appropriate for this bike and tires.

This is why people still favor double and triple plate in front.
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Woa nelly partner. 48T chainring and 10T on the rear cassette with those tires is a 137 inch gear. You might be able to spin that out at 45mph. (72 kmh)
32T chainring in front with 10T rear is a 91 inch gear. Quite appropriate for this bike and tires.

This is why people still favor double and triple plate in front.
Why you only think about the top Salsa Woodsmoke model with 10-50 cassette? My chosen cassette is 11-46 or 11-50 and GRAVEL 1x oval 110 / 4 BCD DA9100 U8000 chainring from AbsoluteBLACK with crank Shimano 105 FC-5800.

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What you gonna do with a 124 inch gear on a dirt bike?
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Originally Posted by pcconsult
Today I send this mail to Salsa:

Hello,

My name is Stanislav Panayotov and I live in Sofia / Bulgaria. I want to buy one of your gorgeous Salsa Woodsmoke bikes, but I drive only in the city.
If all you are doing is looking for a bike to ride in the city, you are looking at the wrong tool for the job.
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I'm a heavy man. My weight is about 107 kg. ~ 235lb. I don't like to ride a normal city bike. I tried, but its frame and parts are not strong enough. This directed me to mountain bikes. Their parts are made for heavy loads. Now I know exactly what I want - a strong and fast bike. I'm not a fan of electric bikes. They're for lazy people, and I'm not like them.
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Originally Posted by pcconsult
I'm a heavy man. My weight is about 107 kg. ~ 235lb. I don't like to ride a normal city bike. I tried, but its frame and parts are not strong enough. This directed me to mountain bikes. Their parts are made for heavy loads. Now I know exactly what I want - a strong and fast bike. I'm not a fan of electric bikes. They're for lazy people, and I'm not like them.
Yeah...you're not correct in your assumptions. I ride with guys on carbon and aluminum road bikes that weigh 18 lbs and these guys are pushing 250+ pounds. Bike frames are stronger than you think. You are overthinking this.

Something like these would be more in line in what you are wanting for a bike...

https://www.giant-bicycles.com/us/bikes-toughroad-slr

https://www.specialized.com/us/en/si...=272321-173639

https://ninerbikes.com/products/rlt-9-apex

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Old 09-19-19, 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by prj71
Yeah...you're not correct in your assumptions. I ride with guys on carbon and aluminum road bikes that weigh 18 lbs and these guys are pushing 250+ pounds. Bike frames are stronger than you think. You are overthinking this.

Something like these would be more in line in what you are wanting for a bike...
Yep - this frames are strong but tires are not. My tires are special for up to 150kg. heavy load and I like my tapered fork Fox 34 so much. My road is not typical city road. I drive through curbs and tram tracks rails often. Often the roadway has rough pavement, gravel and holes.
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There are tires that are narrower that can take a beating and just why do you need gearing that is insanely huge for city riding? You'll never need that gearing for stop and go riding.
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Originally Posted by pcconsult
Yep - this frames are strong but tires are not. My tires are special for up to 150kg. heavy load and I like my tapered fork Fox 34 so much. My road is not typical city road. I drive through curbs and tram tracks rails often. Often the roadway has rough pavement, gravel and holes.
There is nothing special about your tires. LOL.

I'm beginning to think you don't understand bikes.
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There is nothing special about your tires. LOL.

I'm beginning to think you don't understand bikes.
Did you read the part about tram tracks (rail road I assume) curbs and potholes? It's about the right tool for the job. OP, think about a 46 front, that what I have on one of my touring and commuter bikes.
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Even a 46 is a lot. My drop bar ROAD!!! bike which is carbon everything has 46/30 chainrings on it. It does double duty as a gravel bike which is why I have that gearing but even on the road with my 28mm slicks the 46 is plenty. On a normal ride I run out of gearing for maybe 0.2% of my ride and I just coast on those sections of downhills.

This isn't even an XC bike he is riding on the road. It is a 140mm trail/enduro hardtail with + tires. Anything over a 42 is extremely optimistic, even that is honestly.
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Originally Posted by Dannihilator
There are tires that are narrower that can take a beating and just why do you need gearing that is insanely huge for city riding? You'll never need that gearing for stop and go riding.
Now I'm driving with Shimano SLX CS-HG81 Cassette with combination 11-22, from 11-32 but biggest chainrings are not mounted - I do not use them. In their place is installed DH Block by OneUp Components. Front chainring is MRP Wave ring DM 34T. With these big teeth, more than 34T did not fit on my frame.

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I found more cheapest solution:
1. Frame Dartmoor PRIMAL 29
2. Crankset SRAM Apex GXP 10-speed
3. Rear hub Koozer BM440
4. SRAM Apex Front Derailleur
5. I need some compatible non-"Sram Apex" front shiftier.
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