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Old 08-30-08, 04:26 PM
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fall/winter commute

Ahhhh, i really hate to bring it up. In a way. These 85-90 degree commutes home are getting kinda old, the last one was Thursday. But mornings have been wonderful. I finally went out a bought a rechargeable light, a night rider that seems crazy bright, easy to install and easy to recharge. I just hope it is dependable. Starting to get ready for the fall.

I usually train for the mini during the winter here in Indy and run down to less than 10 degrees, so I am not really a cold, bad weather weenie. Jogging and cold the problem is usually over dressing and i have learned over the years to be pretty comfortable while running. The bicycle is completley different. After a mile I am warm while jogging, on my bike at 20 mph I am freezing. Somewhere around 6 miles out I start to warm up, and that is in the 50's. My commute is 14 miles and I will probably add a few. How do you guys dress? I have long black bicycle pants that are tight down to the ankles. I have a light, high vis jacket, warm bicycle glove shells that go under your other gloves. Any of you layer your running gear over bicycle shorts. Can you keep sweats out of your chain? any inexpensive tips. frostbite probably is unpleasant.

I hope to ride till there is ice on the roads.
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I dress the way I dress off the bike. As summer turns to fall, I'll wear jeans more, switch from shorts and sandals to socks and shoes. When it gets too cold for riding gloves, I'll switch to regular gloves. For the head, I'll try hats, and if those don't work under the helmet, I'll buy a winter one. Above the waist, I'll wear shirts, sweaters, jackets, and when cold enough, my winter coat. It doesn't have to be complicated. I plan to ride year-round.
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In coldest weather I'm wearing bike shorts, tights, and a pair of cheap nylon lined running pants, then up top a compression top, a poly sweatshirt, and a vented rain jacket, and a balaclava. Cheap $10 windproof breathable gloves. wool socks and hunting boots. That's what I wear from about 0*F down to as cold as I've ever run, which is -25*F.

I consider 50*F borderline where I MIGHT put on some thin running tights, but probably not, I'll just have lycra shorts on. Up top I'll have a compression top and a short sleeve poly top. That's about it or I'll get overheated.

I generally don't put on the rain jacket until it gets down in the 30s or I'll be sweating bullets. I switch out my SPD shoes for platforms and hunting boots at about 0*F.

I'm only cold for about 5 minutes. When I exercise, I sweat, regardless of how lightly I dress. If I dress too lightly, I wind up sweating and freezing at the same time. I think my sweat glands respond to core temp rather than skin temp, because I get to work with my skin very cold and covered with sweat. Still no frostbite though.
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Originally Posted by ItsJustMe
In coldest weather I'm wearing bike shorts, tights, and a pair of cheap nylon lined running pants, then up top a compression top, a poly sweatshirt, and a vented rain jacket, and a balaclava. Cheap $10 windproof breathable gloves. wool socks and hunting boots. That's what I wear from about 0*F down to as cold as I've ever run, which is -25*F.

I consider 50*F borderline where I MIGHT put on some thin running tights, but probably not, I'll just have lycra shorts on. Up top I'll have a compression top and a short sleeve poly top. That's about it or I'll get overheated.

I generally don't put on the rain jacket until it gets down in the 30s or I'll be sweating bullets. I switch out my SPD shoes for platforms and hunting boots at about 0*F.

I'm only cold for about 5 minutes. When I exercise, I sweat, regardless of how lightly I dress. If I dress too lightly, I wind up sweating and freezing at the same time. I think my sweat glands respond to core temp rather than skin temp, because I get to work with my skin very cold and covered with sweat. Still no frostbite though.

Thanks. I thought running at 0 degrees was something.
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I live in New England and commute year-round unless there is heavy icing. The cold isn't too bad, but the darkness is. The best piece of equipment that I own for winter commuting is a generator headlight.

As for clothing, I have a short commute (10 miles R/T) and I simply wear my business casual office attire. If it's really cold I wear REI storm pants over my khakis. On top, I use a fleece jacket with a with a removable wind shell outer layer. Any sweat gets trapped between the fleece jacket and the shell. Pit zips are nice to have on days when it's 15 degrees in the morning and 35 degrees on the way home.

I also make use of a skull cap under my helmet and a windproof helmet cover. I use 2-layer ski gloves on most days and mittens when it's very cold (I have a coaster brake so no brake levers to handle).

Winter commuting is fun. People at my office think I'm crazy but it's easier than it looks.
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Yeah it's coming...that being the rain, the cold, the rain, the rain, and once and a while the snow. I am all excited with plans to build a MTB SS commuter with studs. Going to look for an old rigid Kona. I like the fall over the summer because it's less sweaty actually.
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I jsut looked at the weather next week. High in the 90 till Wednesday or Thursday.
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Originally Posted by bjornb
I like the fall over the summer because it's less sweaty actually.
I'm looking forward to when the daytime high is capped at 70 degrees; I don't ride in 80+ degree weather, which means I'm indoors for much of summer.
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Originally Posted by bjornb
Yeah it's coming...that being the rain, the cold, the rain, the rain, and once and a while the snow. I am all excited with plans to build a MTB SS commuter with studs. Going to look for an old rigid Kona. I like the fall over the summer because it's less sweaty actually.
Good call. I've got a mid 90's Fire Mountain that was great thru a terrible winter in PHL. I had a terrible crash on some ice, but that's b/c I was too lazy and stubborn to change from slicks to knobs.

I like cold better than hot on a bike.
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What is this thing you call winter?
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I've not worn anything heavier than a wind breaker for two years... including riding down to -5F. (12.5 miles)

The key is in the proper layers... I have a couple underarmor clone shirts I use for a base layer, a t-shirt on top of that, sweatshirt if it's REALLY cold, a zipper hoodie, and a wind breaker... mix and match for conditions.

for pants I have a pair of thermal underwear, sweats, and jeans... and the matching wind-resistant pants to go with the wind breaker if it's really cold, raining, or snowing.

for my hands I just used a pair of light weight waterproof hunting gloves from Walmart... cost me all of $10.

For my feet I wear a pair of waterproof Brahma boots, with 1 or 2 pairs of socks.

Mostly it just takes some experimenting to get the layers right for existing temps/conditions.
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I was comfortable last winter in mostly off-the-bike clothing... I'd wear a thermal shirt with a t-shirt over it, then a sweatshirt, then a windbreaker. Add a hoodie when it was extremely cold. I wore the same kind of pants I wear to work, heavy cargo pants, and thermal underwear on the coldest days. Double socks, waterproof gloves, and the most important thing was a balaclava to keep my ears from hurting.

I go a bit slower when it's cold to keep the wind chill down. It took some experimenting to learn how hard to work on the climbs to keep myself warm but not so sweaty that I'd end up wet and cold.
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Wool

I have a couple of Icebreaker wool shirts (2 different thicknesses) that I use under a cycling jersey. Somehow Icebreaker manages to limit the wet-wool smell you get with some wool jerseys. Two wool shirts under a jersey works at 32 degrees for me.

I machine wash the wool shirts, but air dry them on a three-tier rack I bought at Target. I have a big fan in my laundry room I turn on if I don't have the time to wait for the normal drying cycle. In the winter, the drying rack lives near the wood stove.
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This upcoming winter is going to be the first winter where I actually bike so it's going to be interesting. Combined with the fact that I'll be doubling my commute (from R/T 6 to 12 miles) it should be fun. Winters don't get that extreme here but we shall see.
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Yup, Just layer synthetic fabrics. I ride year round in Maine. Building a better lighting system right now. Dynohub light to replace the sidewall generator. Can't wait to see the brightness of the IQ-Fly!

I love the challenge of winter riding.
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On the topic of winter riding--How do you guys deal with wind?
It has been really windy here lately, and I have found it hard to stay stable. I just slowed down a lot. Anyone have special ways of dealing with the wind or dressing for it?

--Oh and I found you can keep sweat pants off of the chain by investing in a pack of rubber bands. Works pretty well for me.
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I am looking forward to the lower temps. From 38 to 55 degrees I wear a hoodie or light jacket over two regular shirts. 10 to 37 degrees I wear my regular winter coat with hat and gloves. I try to avoid riding in single digit temperatures, but if I have to I bust out the arctic coat with an extra set of gloves and a balaclava.

On the topic of winter riding--How do you guys deal with wind?
I don't. I hate it. I curse it and continue to pedal on.
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This guy in Chicago wrote this...

Some good practical advice

https://commutebybike.com/2006/11/01/...-cold-weather/

Good luck
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Originally Posted by Kenay
On the topic of winter riding--How do you guys deal with wind?
I tell myself that occasionally it will be at my back. Unfortunately, I got to know the weather pattern well enough to realize that was a rare occurence. I just plan some extra time in to my ride and get psyched up to ride hard. As for getting blown around, I stay off high-traffic streets, the only time I've lost my balance and had to hop off the bike was being passed (close!) by a big pickup truck.
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Originally Posted by Kenay
On the topic of winter riding--How do you guys deal with wind?
It has been really windy here lately, and I have found it hard to stay stable. I just slowed down a lot. Anyone have special ways of dealing with the wind or dressing for it?

--Oh and I found you can keep sweat pants off of the chain by investing in a pack of rubber bands. Works pretty well for me.
I wear a snowboard helmet, ski-goggles, and a baclava for the wind here in Minnesota when it is below freezing. As for staying stable, just get stronger legs.

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I wear wrap around sunglasses (clear lenses in the dark) down to about 5F. Not very comfy. I think I will try goggles this year.
Anyhow, I have had issues with baclavas and use a skiing face mask \ kneck warmer and a wool cycling cap instead.
The winds definitely pick up during winter. That and wearing a jacket at the same time gives you more of a workout.
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I got a set of shimano spd boots for this winter. I'm ready for winter but still totally not looking forward to it.
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Thanks for the advice. I still dont know how much winter riding I will be doing. I hope to just stop using the rtarded car as much. Oregon is supposed to have mild winters anyway.
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