Search
Notices
General Cycling Discussion Have a cycling related question or comment that doesn't fit in one of the other specialty forums? Drop on in and post in here! When possible, please select the forum above that most fits your post!

Bike accessories?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 10-14-20, 04:56 AM
  #1  
isaac.waters
Newbie
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Oct 2020
Posts: 3
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 8 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
Bike accessories?

I am a student at Whitley Bay High School and part of my design engineering course is solving problems in the real world. I have chosen cycling as my topic area and am in need of a list of requirements that you would want from a bike accessory.

So my question is, if you were to have a something attached to the bars or the head tube for example, what is something you would expect from it e.g. it must be small or it must be lightweight.

Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.
isaac.waters is offline  
Likes For isaac.waters:
Old 10-14-20, 05:29 AM
  #2  
Germany_chris
I’m a little Surly
 
Germany_chris's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Near the district
Posts: 2,422

Bikes: Two Cross Checks, a Karate Monkey, a Disc Trucker, and a VO Randonneur

Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 699 Post(s)
Liked 1,294 Times in 647 Posts
A waterproof doodad for my phone that will charge via solar an/or dynamo but all in one piece.
Germany_chris is offline  
Old 10-14-20, 05:42 AM
  #3  
indyfabz
Senior Member
 
indyfabz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 39,232
Mentioned: 211 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 18409 Post(s)
Liked 15,530 Times in 7,326 Posts
It must stay attached under all riding conditions.
indyfabz is offline  
Likes For indyfabz:
Old 10-14-20, 07:54 AM
  #4  
Milton Keynes
Senior Member
 
Milton Keynes's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2016
Posts: 3,947

Bikes: Trek 1100 road bike, Roadmaster gravel/commuter/beater mountain bike

Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2281 Post(s)
Liked 1,710 Times in 936 Posts
It's kind of hard to answer this question without knowing what kind of accessory it is. But yes, mainly small and lightweight are advantageous for all bike accessories. If it's something that has a screen, easy viewability is a must. When I'm riding down the road and I'm trying to read a display, it's hard to see tiny numbers which may be jiggling around. And yes, shock absorbance/vibration resistance is important, too, because things tend to get bounced around on a bike without suspension.
Milton Keynes is offline  
Old 10-14-20, 08:27 AM
  #5  
Reflector Guy
Senior Member
 
Reflector Guy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2020
Location: Chicago
Posts: 1,341

Bikes: Bianchi Infinito XE, Via Nirone 7, GT Aggressor Pro

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 599 Post(s)
Liked 1,271 Times in 588 Posts
Originally Posted by indyfabz
It must stay attached under all riding conditions.
And no rattles.

Sounds like a simple request, but it stems from the couple of bells I have bought recently that rattle over bumps.
Reflector Guy is offline  
Likes For Reflector Guy:
Old 10-14-20, 09:46 AM
  #6  
indyfabz
Senior Member
 
indyfabz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 39,232
Mentioned: 211 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 18409 Post(s)
Liked 15,530 Times in 7,326 Posts
Originally Posted by Reflector Guy
And no rattles.

Sounds like a simple request, but it stems from the couple of bells I have bought recently that rattle over bumps.
My Cateye Padrone computer rattles. Another forum member had the same problem.
indyfabz is offline  
Old 10-14-20, 09:49 AM
  #7  
mstateglfr 
Sunshine
 
mstateglfr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Des Moines, IA
Posts: 16,610

Bikes: '18 class built steel roadbike, '19 Fairlight Secan, '88 Schwinn Premis , Black Mountain Cycles Monstercross V4, '89 Novara Trionfo

Mentioned: 123 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 10955 Post(s)
Liked 7,483 Times in 4,185 Posts
Originally Posted by isaac.waters
So my question is, if you were to have a something attached to the bars or the head tube for example, what is something you would expect from it e.g. it must be small or it must be lightweight.
expectations-
dont rattle ever- there is little that is more annoying when riding than a rattle that wont stop.
work each time i want it to- it sounds obvious, yet this world is filled with poorly designed and built junk.
versatile mounting- bars and head tubes vary greatly in shape and diameter. making it fit just one size or shape reduces the user base.
simple and clear directions- again, it sounds obvious, yet...
mstateglfr is offline  
Likes For mstateglfr:
Old 10-15-20, 03:02 PM
  #8  
isaac.waters
Newbie
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Oct 2020
Posts: 3
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 8 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
thanks these replies were very helpful.
isaac.waters is offline  
Old 10-16-20, 05:06 AM
  #9  
Phil_gretz
Zip tie Karen
 
Phil_gretz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Fair Oaks Ranch, TX
Posts: 7,004

Bikes: '13 Motobecane Fantom29 HT, '16 Motobecane Turino Pro Disc, '18 Velobuild VB-R-022, '21 Tsunami SNM-100

Mentioned: 26 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1465 Post(s)
Liked 1,542 Times in 806 Posts
Originally Posted by isaac.waters
I am a student at Whitley Bay High School and part of my design engineering course is solving problems in the real world. I have chosen cycling as my topic area and am in need of a list of requirements that you would want from a bike accessory.

So my question is, if you were to have a something attached to the bars or the head tube for example, what is something you would expect from it e.g. it must be small or it must be lightweight.

Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.
Start by formulating a problem that must be overcome or hypothesis that must be tested. Are you asking for a problem to solve?
Phil_gretz is offline  
Old 10-16-20, 06:48 AM
  #10  
Garfield Cat
Senior Member
 
Garfield Cat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Huntington Beach, CA
Posts: 7,085

Bikes: Cervelo Prodigy

Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 478 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 87 Times in 67 Posts
Originally Posted by isaac.waters
I am a student at Whitley Bay High School and part of my design engineering course is solving problems in the real world. I have chosen cycling as my topic area and am in need of a list of requirements that you would want from a bike accessory.

So my question is, if you were to have a something attached to the bars or the head tube for example, what is something you would expect from it e.g. it must be small or it must be lightweight.

Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.
For a start: sensors, a mother board with sensors. Not just sensors for one thing, but sensors for most anything, even the bike's condition. Like the sensors that can detect noises coming from the bike, noises that spell trouble mechanically.
Garfield Cat is offline  
Old 10-16-20, 07:20 AM
  #11  
DorkDisk
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Kips Bay, NY
Posts: 2,212

Bikes: Ritchey Swiss Cross | Teesdale Kona Hot | Haro Extreme | Specialized Stumpjumper Comp | Cannondale F1000 | Shogun 1000 | Cannondale M500 | Norco Charger | Marin Muirwoods 29er | Shogun Kaze | Breezer Lightning

Mentioned: 8 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 576 Post(s)
Liked 1,001 Times in 488 Posts
Compact is always good overall, but some areas could be prioritized. Anything that attaches to the handlebars should take the minimum bar space possible, and ideally could double up on clamps (see I-spec, garmin/gopro mounts, stem face clamp mounts). Bars are getting crowded.
DorkDisk is offline  
Old 10-16-20, 08:04 AM
  #12  
msu2001la
Senior Member
 
msu2001la's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Chicago, IL, USA
Posts: 2,880
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1459 Post(s)
Liked 1,477 Times in 867 Posts
No one here has mentioned aerodynamics, so I'll mention it. It's a big factor for many in the hardcore roadie crowd.
A more obvious factor is that anything mounted to my handlebars needs to be positioned so that it doesn't interfere with grip position.
msu2001la is online now  
Old 10-16-20, 08:08 AM
  #13  
Gary in NJ
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2020
Location: Hilly NJ
Posts: 76

Bikes: 2020 Fuji Gran Fondo 1.3, 2015 Trek FrankenMarlin Gravel Thing

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 29 Post(s)
Liked 60 Times in 31 Posts
I gave this some thought and came up with a lot of ideas. I checked each idea with a google search to see if a product currently existed...and in all cases but one I found products.

Here is a product idea where there is white space; a proximity warning system that uses vehicle to vehicle 5g communication so cars can be alerted of your presence and you of theirs.

Good luck and enjoy solving the problems of the future.
Gary in NJ is offline  
Likes For Gary in NJ:
Old 10-16-20, 09:30 AM
  #14  
Maelochs
Senior Member
 
Maelochs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 15,488

Bikes: 2015 Workswell 066, 2017 Workswell 093, 2014 Dawes Sheila, 1983 Cannondale 500, 1984 Raleigh Olympian, 2007 Cannondale Rize 4, 2017 Fuji Sportif 1 LE

Mentioned: 144 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 7652 Post(s)
Liked 3,473 Times in 1,834 Posts
Whatever it is it must add appreciably to the quality or enjoyment of the ride in some way. It has to do something I need done better than the stuff on the market which already does that stuff. Lights, phone or computer mount, ... not much else I need on my handlebars or head tube.

Obviously anything related to cycling must be lightweight. A bike is a human-powered device and nobody wants to work a lot harder for less performance just to tote some accessory around town. A securely mounted bowling ball wouldn't sell as an accessory even though it didn't rattle.

Equally obviously, it must be small, for several reasons, drag and aesthetics being two, and limited real estate being another---bars and head tube are only so big Anything which acts as a giant sail .... or anything which looks like a giant tumor ..... or which doesn't leave enough room to operate the bike ....

I'd say the first consideration would be what the accessory did to improve the ride. Stuff like secure mounting, easy dismounting (when applicable,) and light weight are just generic considerations .... the product will sell based on what it does, not how it does it.
​​​​​​​
Maelochs is offline  
Old 10-16-20, 09:57 AM
  #15  
Chuckles1
Full Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2019
Location: Foothills of West Central Maine
Posts: 410

Bikes: 2007 Motobecane Fantom Cross Expert, 2020 Motobecane Omni Strada Pro Disc (700c gravel bike), 2021 Motobecane Elite Adventure with Bafang 500W rear hub drive

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 174 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 143 Times in 94 Posts
Small, light weight, rechargeable rear discharge air horn with wireless actuator button on handlebars, powerful enough to make a dog poop himself and skulk away with his tail between his legs, without deafening the operator. Good luck, let me know when it's ready.
Chuckles1 is offline  
Old 10-16-20, 09:59 AM
  #16  
10 Wheels
Galveston County Texas
 
10 Wheels's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: In The Wind
Posts: 33,221

Bikes: 02 GTO, 2011 Magnum

Mentioned: 19 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1350 Post(s)
Liked 1,243 Times in 621 Posts
Small Marine Air horn
__________________
Fred "The Real Fred"

10 Wheels is offline  
Old 10-16-20, 10:09 AM
  #17  
rollagain
Lopsided biped
 
rollagain's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: NE Ohio
Posts: 737

Bikes: 2017 Day 6 Cyclone (the Buick); 2015 Simcoe Deluxe (the Xebec); Street Strider 3i (the not-a-bike); GreenSpeed Anura (the Black Swan)

Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 316 Post(s)
Liked 160 Times in 97 Posts
Easily removable for theft prevention when parked.
rollagain is offline  
Old 10-16-20, 03:19 PM
  #18  
veganbikes
Clark W. Griswold
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: ,location, location
Posts: 13,506

Bikes: Foundry Chilkoot Ti W/Ultegra Di2, Salsa Timberjack Ti, Cinelli Mash Work RandoCross Fun Time Machine, 1x9 XT Parts Hybrid, Co-Motion Cascadia, Specialized Langster, Phil Wood Apple VeloXS Frame (w/DA 7400), R+M Supercharger2 Rohloff, Habanero Ti 26

Mentioned: 54 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4348 Post(s)
Liked 3,985 Times in 2,661 Posts
3DV anodized of course. That is the only thing that matters!
veganbikes is offline  
Old 10-23-20, 04:47 AM
  #19  
livedarklions
Tragically Ignorant
 
livedarklions's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: New England
Posts: 15,613

Bikes: Serotta Atlanta; 1994 Specialized Allez Pro; Giant OCR A1; SOMA Double Cross Disc; 2022 Allez Elite mit der SRAM

Mentioned: 62 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 8186 Post(s)
Liked 9,098 Times in 5,054 Posts
If you can come up with a good way to attach a rear view mirror on drop bars that actually puts the mirror in a useful position and not interfere with hand positions, you'll have something I've never been able to find so far.
livedarklions is offline  
Likes For livedarklions:
Old 10-23-20, 04:58 AM
  #20  
10 Wheels
Galveston County Texas
 
10 Wheels's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: In The Wind
Posts: 33,221

Bikes: 02 GTO, 2011 Magnum

Mentioned: 19 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1350 Post(s)
Liked 1,243 Times in 621 Posts
This may work for some.
__________________
Fred "The Real Fred"

10 Wheels is offline  
Old 10-23-20, 06:41 AM
  #21  
livedarklions
Tragically Ignorant
 
livedarklions's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: New England
Posts: 15,613

Bikes: Serotta Atlanta; 1994 Specialized Allez Pro; Giant OCR A1; SOMA Double Cross Disc; 2022 Allez Elite mit der SRAM

Mentioned: 62 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 8186 Post(s)
Liked 9,098 Times in 5,054 Posts
Originally Posted by 10 Wheels
This may work for some.
Interesting. Does it function well if your hand is on the hood?

Also, is that a DIY? How did you do it? It's Fredtastic!
livedarklions is offline  
Old 10-23-20, 06:43 AM
  #22  
10 Wheels
Galveston County Texas
 
10 Wheels's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: In The Wind
Posts: 33,221

Bikes: 02 GTO, 2011 Magnum

Mentioned: 19 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1350 Post(s)
Liked 1,243 Times in 621 Posts
Mirrored Glasses from Dollar Tree Glued on to each Glove.

Works Best for recumbent riders.
__________________
Fred "The Real Fred"

10 Wheels is offline  
Likes For 10 Wheels:
Old 10-23-20, 08:21 AM
  #23  
WaveyGravey
Full Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2018
Posts: 372
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 131 Post(s)
Liked 126 Times in 87 Posts
Lights and mirrors for road bikes.
WaveyGravey is offline  
Old 10-23-20, 08:38 AM
  #24  
wphamilton
Senior Member
 
wphamilton's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Alpharetta, GA
Posts: 15,280

Bikes: Nashbar Road

Mentioned: 71 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2934 Post(s)
Liked 341 Times in 228 Posts
Originally Posted by livedarklions
Interesting. Does it function well if your hand is on the hood?

Also, is that a DIY? How did you do it? It's Fredtastic!
It's a real pain with a road bike with hoods. It does work, sort of, because it's only a hand/wrist motion. But that was reason enough for me to mothball it when I tried it, about 10 years ago. Maybe with practice, but it was an extra 1-3 seconds for me to get a good look, too much latency to be practical
wphamilton is offline  
Likes For wphamilton:
Old 10-23-20, 11:05 AM
  #25  
livedarklions
Tragically Ignorant
 
livedarklions's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: New England
Posts: 15,613

Bikes: Serotta Atlanta; 1994 Specialized Allez Pro; Giant OCR A1; SOMA Double Cross Disc; 2022 Allez Elite mit der SRAM

Mentioned: 62 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 8186 Post(s)
Liked 9,098 Times in 5,054 Posts
Originally Posted by 10 Wheels
Mirrored Glasses from Dollar Tree Glued on to each Glove.

Works Best for recumbent riders.

Not good for me then, but thanks!
livedarklions is offline  


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.