tedi k wardhana

I made sure that is is not available in europe.
the european website does not carry this type.

https://tw.bid.yimg.com/users/5/1/8/0...060312_5-3.jpg

https://tw.bid.yimg.com/users/5/1/8/0...060332_7-7.jpg

not available in europe?
what?
is oyama afraid of being sued by brompton?
(and yet, the patent has expired looong ago...)

coolio

Judging from the fold, Brompton has nothing to worry about.

Lalato

Actually, the Oyama folding bike is available in Europe and the UK. It is sold under the brand name Mission Space Genie. In the US it is sold as the Breezer i3. I don't think Brompton has anything to worry about on this one.

vincentnyc

by the way it folds, it looks like an ibreezer folder instead of a brompton.

edwong3

I believe Breezer no longer offers the i3. The Oyama looks great though.

mulleady

Lol A brompton might be more expensive than the Oyama but it's worth every penny. There is no doubt even looking at the photos that the Brompton has both a better fold and build quality.

Lalato

Ed, I think you're right. I just checked the Breezer website... and it's no longer there.

edwong3

Yep! And notice that they don't sell 16 inch bikes anymore. All three models are 20 inch, and the frame reminds me of the Dahon Eco 3. If memory serves me right, I seen an i3 on ebay about a week or two ago, though I don't remember if it was new or used. I think the "Buy it now" price was $299.

kamtsa

Can you explain the quality difference?

Thanks,

Kam

ulugeyik

I just noticed it the other day. In Spain, it is available at:
https://www.goodbikes.org
and sold as "Oyama BROMPTOM Replica"

tcs

Of course, Brompton's fold isn't protected under any intellectual property rights, but they claimed the reason their knickers were in a twist because the unfolded profile with it's curved top tube - which the Oyama shares - was copyrighted as an iconic look.

Of course since, as coolio points out, the unprotected and superior fold isn't cloned, none of us here in the real world think Brompton will waste a farthing going after this bike for copyright infringement.

tcs

edwong3

Here is the direct link to the Oyama's description page. Now that I seen much more detailed photos, I wish they sold that bike here in the US!

https://www.goodbikes.org/nuevo/edita...d_articulo=418

vmaniqui

according to this article, it is available in Europe: https://www.foldingcyclist.com/

Blomson International BV, a Dutch bicycle distributor, has partnered with Taiwanese folding bike manufacturer Oyama to develop a line of folders for the European market. The line will consist of 8 models varying from hub gear equiped to lightweight derailleur bikes. The bikes will debut at the Bike Motion Show in Utrecht, The Netherlands with availability expected in 2009.

vmaniqui

check this out.. https://www.foldingcyclist.com/