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08-31-20, 05:11 AM
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You built up and are now riding a bike within a month of breaking your arm? That's impressive.
08-31-20, 02:14 PM
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It was "just" a radial head fracture (common injury for a "fall on outstretched hand," or FOOSH, as the clinic put in the report). Since it's not at risk of moving out of place, I only had to stay in a splint and a sling for two weeks. It's still stiff and sore as the bone and tendons continue to heal, but it's important to keep it moving so I can get all my flexibility back.
This bike's frame geometry is a little unusual, with a 58cm seat tube and 56cm top tube. The shorter reach is helpful with my left elbow still stiff and sensitive.
This bike's frame geometry is a little unusual, with a 58cm seat tube and 56cm top tube. The shorter reach is helpful with my left elbow still stiff and sensitive.
08-31-20, 06:29 PM
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Beautiful bike. Yellow doesn't seem to be that common.
08-31-20, 06:58 PM
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Thanks! True, I can't remember the last time I saw someone else riding a yellow bike... aside from those Ofo bike-shares. Everyone seems to want subtler colors, or just no colors at all.
I actually started with the red Helium wheels. I originally bought them when I was building the Smoothie a few years ago, thinking they would go well with the metallic copper, but it was a poor match. Once I was ready to start a new bike project, I looked for a colored frame that would look good with the red wheels I already had. Yellow was high on the list. When I saw that frame, yellow with red accents, I knew my search was over.
I actually started with the red Helium wheels. I originally bought them when I was building the Smoothie a few years ago, thinking they would go well with the metallic copper, but it was a poor match. Once I was ready to start a new bike project, I looked for a colored frame that would look good with the red wheels I already had. Yellow was high on the list. When I saw that frame, yellow with red accents, I knew my search was over.
08-31-20, 07:34 PM
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Beautiful build! And going with the red Mavic rims was a great choice.
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09-06-20, 03:21 PM
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Tire clearance is really tight on this frame. I thought the little injection-molding nipples would wear off quickly on the tires, but a hundred miles in, they were still making this lovely little squeaking/ringing noise against the fork and frame as I rode. So I did a little toenail clipping this morning...
09-16-20, 07:18 PM
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Thank you, and yes, they are 700c Mavic Helium rims. The tires are 28mm, Vittoria Rubino Pro Endurance IV G2.0... I think that's the whole thing? I'm really impressed with these tires. Since moving to Arizona, I've never made it more than 100 miles without a flat without the help of tire liners or those super-heavy "thorn-resistant" tubes. These tires are closing in on 300 miles with regular tubes, and no flats!
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12-26-20, 04:29 AM
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Is there some prep this needs? The headset went in easy. I have not experienced this when building up other new frames but none were this old.
12-26-20, 07:25 AM
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He must have had more than one, because I also bought one. I'm loading it up with a Campy Chorus Groupset from the same period (square taper cartridge BB). Did you have trouble with the BB or the seat post? Even with lots of grease it took a lot to get the seat post in (27.2). And the BB is Italian threaded as advertised but I find I am forcing the cups to go in.
Is there some prep this needs? The headset went in easy. I have not experienced this when building up other new frames but none were this old.
Is there some prep this needs? The headset went in easy. I have not experienced this when building up other new frames but none were this old.
12-26-20, 08:36 AM
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I bought a restored Ciocc frameset for my wife off Ebay to replace her Bianchi that cracked through the lower headtube lug. She only weighs 118 lb so go figure. Anyway, the Ciocc's threads needed chasing so I called the shops around me and found one that had the correct taps and had it done perfectly for $45.
12-26-20, 12:36 PM
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The frame was bead blasted before paint was applied, and not all of the tiny glass beads were cleaned out from inside the frame. Some of those beads wound up in the overspray in the BB threads, which made things difficult, but I eventually got it. I used lots of grease, and every time it snagged, I backed the cup out, cleaned it up, and kept going with new grease.
I bought my frameset from the eBay store of Zar International, an official importer of several small Italian brands, including De Bernardi. They always have several for sale, mostly newer than mine.
The bike is still going strong. I have 1,150 miles on it so far. This is from yesterday morning's ride:
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The twin!! That's awesome! When you said he had more than one, I thought you just meant another De Bernardi. Is the fork chromed like mine, too?
Oh, be careful. The paint is really soft.
Oh, be careful. The paint is really soft.
12-27-20, 01:28 PM
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I lucked out on the fork. I have not built this yet. Should I clear coat it to protect the paint?
12-27-20, 02:12 PM
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Oooh, I'm a little jealous. A chrome fork is nice and all, but it doesn't tie in to the rest of the bike as well as a painted one. Plus I really like the pearlescent greenish-yellow paint. The more, the better. 
Maybe someone else would know a thing or two about protecting fragile Italian paint. I've never tried applying clear coat. I can only verify that if one of your tools taps this paint, it will chip.
One more thing. I mentioned running 28mm tires, but the rear is very tight, and I had to cheat to get them to fit in the fork at all. It's super tight at the top. I made 2mm spacers so the wheel sat slightly further out in the dropouts and the tire cleared the crown. Every hundred miles or so the wheel would shift slightly somehow (probably due to the soft material of the spacers) and the tire would start rubbing. So, I gave the nice 28mm tires to another bike, and now I'm running 25mm Schwalbe Durano Plus tires. The fork is still very tight with 25mm tires.
Maybe someone else would know a thing or two about protecting fragile Italian paint. I've never tried applying clear coat. I can only verify that if one of your tools taps this paint, it will chip.
One more thing. I mentioned running 28mm tires, but the rear is very tight, and I had to cheat to get them to fit in the fork at all. It's super tight at the top. I made 2mm spacers so the wheel sat slightly further out in the dropouts and the tire cleared the crown. Every hundred miles or so the wheel would shift slightly somehow (probably due to the soft material of the spacers) and the tire would start rubbing. So, I gave the nice 28mm tires to another bike, and now I'm running 25mm Schwalbe Durano Plus tires. The fork is still very tight with 25mm tires.
12-30-20, 02:08 PM
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Since it is not built up yet, I threw a few light coats of clear coat on it yesterday. Should help with the paint. I am putting 25's on it as the Campy Chorus Groupset I got on eBay (used) came with a set of built up wheels with Campy hubs.
12-31-20, 08:34 AM
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Oooh, I'm a little jealous. A chrome fork is nice and all, but it doesn't tie in to the rest of the bike as well as a painted one. Plus I really like the pearlescent greenish-yellow paint. The more, the better.
Maybe someone else would know a thing or two about protecting fragile Italian paint. I've never tried applying clear coat. I can only verify that if one of your tools taps this paint, it will chip.
One more thing. I mentioned running 28mm tires, but the rear is very tight, and I had to cheat to get them to fit in the fork at all. It's super tight at the top. I made 2mm spacers so the wheel sat slightly further out in the dropouts and the tire cleared the crown. Every hundred miles or so the wheel would shift slightly somehow (probably due to the soft material of the spacers) and the tire would start rubbing. So, I gave the nice 28mm tires to another bike, and now I'm running 25mm Schwalbe Durano Plus tires. The fork is still very tight with 25mm tires.
Maybe someone else would know a thing or two about protecting fragile Italian paint. I've never tried applying clear coat. I can only verify that if one of your tools taps this paint, it will chip.
One more thing. I mentioned running 28mm tires, but the rear is very tight, and I had to cheat to get them to fit in the fork at all. It's super tight at the top. I made 2mm spacers so the wheel sat slightly further out in the dropouts and the tire cleared the crown. Every hundred miles or so the wheel would shift slightly somehow (probably due to the soft material of the spacers) and the tire would start rubbing. So, I gave the nice 28mm tires to another bike, and now I'm running 25mm Schwalbe Durano Plus tires. The fork is still very tight with 25mm tires.
I have a similar issue on my old Cannondale - not surprisingly, there's not a lot of clearance and 28s work, just (I was also using Schwalbe Durano Plus, which I like). They're worn, so after I do my winter repainting project, I'll replace with some Vittoria gravel tires that someone suggested which come in a *26* size, so I'm looking forward to that.
12-31-20, 12:59 PM
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These DeBernardis look so good!
I have a similar issue on my old Cannondale - not surprisingly, there's not a lot of clearance and 28s work, just (I was also using Schwalbe Durano Plus, which I like). They're worn, so after I do my winter repainting project, I'll replace with some Vittoria gravel tires that someone suggested which come in a *26* size, so I'm looking forward to that.
I have a similar issue on my old Cannondale - not surprisingly, there's not a lot of clearance and 28s work, just (I was also using Schwalbe Durano Plus, which I like). They're worn, so after I do my winter repainting project, I'll replace with some Vittoria gravel tires that someone suggested which come in a *26* size, so I'm looking forward to that.
It's bath time!
It's been almost 700 miles since I cleaned this poor bike. You folks who live in places where water and ice occasionally fall from the sky are going to scoff at this, but it's filthy!
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