Help with frame ID- no decals etc
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Help with frame ID- no decals etc
I posted a few pics in the Gallery (tedbaz). It looks to be a 70’s or 80’s frame - Galli roller headset, Campy BB (English) and lots of braze-ons. BB is stamped with a serial # and a big letter “K”. More details in the gallery album ... any thoughts?
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Looks like a good quality frame, I'm guessing closer to 90's era. I hate to be the guy who always says "huh, reminds me of a Bianchi" but "huh, reminds me of a Bianchi"
Questions: Any markings on the fork ends or dropouts? What's the diameter marked on the seat post? What's the threading marked on the bottom bracket cup? Are there any thread pitch markings on the top nut of the headset?
Questions: Any markings on the fork ends or dropouts? What's the diameter marked on the seat post? What's the threading marked on the bottom bracket cup? Are there any thread pitch markings on the top nut of the headset?
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Looks like a great frame and I love that fork crown. It doesn’t look like a Bianchi to me
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OP says the Campy BB is "English", and apparently this "Henry James" style crown was also made by Everest. Now curious to have an ID for the dropouts: familiar looking but I draw a blank for a name.
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Tedbaz, are there any cutouts in either the seat or head lugs? Also, are the top tube cable guides slightly offset to the left of the top tube centerline (they look so from one of the pictures but I wanted to double check)?
Everything I'm seeing from the pictures provided is consistent with frames built by Jim Redcay. The fastback stays, the stay end treatment, the serial number (with the accompanying "K"), use of Henry James/Everest crown and lugs, and the top tube cable guides that are (or at least seem to me in the pic) offset slightly to the left of center line.
Fastback stays:
Brake bridge:
Stay ends:
Offset top tube cable guides:
Serial number (this is the only picture I had. Even though it shows a 7 digit number, there were 6 digit numbers as well. The orange/yellow brake bridge pic is a frame that's still listed on eBay and its number is 331144):
Maybe some forum members who own Redcay bikes (like pcb) might weigh in on this one too.
Everything I'm seeing from the pictures provided is consistent with frames built by Jim Redcay. The fastback stays, the stay end treatment, the serial number (with the accompanying "K"), use of Henry James/Everest crown and lugs, and the top tube cable guides that are (or at least seem to me in the pic) offset slightly to the left of center line.
Fastback stays:
Brake bridge:
Stay ends:
Offset top tube cable guides:
Serial number (this is the only picture I had. Even though it shows a 7 digit number, there were 6 digit numbers as well. The orange/yellow brake bridge pic is a frame that's still listed on eBay and its number is 331144):
Maybe some forum members who own Redcay bikes (like pcb) might weigh in on this one too.
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Looks like a good quality frame, I'm guessing closer to 90's era. I hate to be the guy who always says "huh, reminds me of a Bianchi" but "huh, reminds me of a Bianchi"
Questions: Any markings on the fork ends or dropouts? What's the diameter marked on the seat post? What's the threading marked on the bottom bracket cup? Are there any thread pitch markings on the top nut of the headset?
Questions: Any markings on the fork ends or dropouts? What's the diameter marked on the seat post? What's the threading marked on the bottom bracket cup? Are there any thread pitch markings on the top nut of the headset?
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This frame looks to be built for touring - there are three sets bottle braze-one in the down tube, two on top and one on the bottom, leaving no space for a down tube shifter. There are also cable stops brazed close to the head tube. All those details (I think) indicate bar end shifters.
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Everything points to Jim Redcay being the builder. He worked in Lambertville, NJ right across the Delaware River from New Hope, PA in Bucks county north of Philadelphia. It is a touristy art center. Jim learned from New Jersey builder Bill Boston and partnered or worked with Tom Kellogg of Spectrum. At one time they made the Signature series at Ross Bicycles. In the later 80's he went on to be technical editor of Bicycling magazine. Sometime in the early 80's or late 70's Bicycling magazine did a special on his frames. Included in pictures of his building progress was a photo of his dropout to stay treatment which showed the kind of scalloped shape shown on the burgundy frame. His head tube decal was a large red K (get it?). Around 1975, he showed me his gravity feed Binks Bullows paint spray gun (made in the UK). Because of his recommendation, I got one too. He told me he got a lot of orders from that Bicycling article.
The lugs, bottom bracket shell and fork crown are all Henry James. Because the back of the head lugs don't have any tips, these are early model Henry James lugs. Hank added the tips sometime before 1985. The Everest look alike fork crown was narrower than the Henry James crown. The width of this crown indicates it is a Henry James.
The lugs, bottom bracket shell and fork crown are all Henry James. Because the back of the head lugs don't have any tips, these are early model Henry James lugs. Hank added the tips sometime before 1985. The Everest look alike fork crown was narrower than the Henry James crown. The width of this crown indicates it is a Henry James.
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Everything points to Jim Redcay being the builder. He worked in Lambertville, NJ right across the Delaware River from New Hope, PA in Bucks county north of Philadelphia. It is a touristy art center. Jim learned from New Jersey builder Bill Boston and partnered or worked with Tom Kellogg of Spectrum. At one time they made the Signature series at Ross Bicycles. In the later 80's he went on to be technical editor of Bicycling magazine. Sometime in the early 80's or late 70's Bicycling magazine did a special on his frames. Included in pictures of his building progress was a photo of his dropout to stay treatment which showed the kind of scalloped shape shown on the burgundy frame. His head tube decal was a large red K (get it?). Around 1975, he showed me his gravity feed Binks Bullows paint spray gun (made in the UK). Because of his recommendation, I got one too. He told me he got a lot of orders from that Bicycling article.
The lugs, bottom bracket shell and fork crown are all Henry James. Because the back of the head lugs don't have any tips, these are early model Henry James lugs. Hank added the tips sometime before 1985. The Everest look alike fork crown was narrower than the Henry James crown. The width of this crown indicates it is a Henry James.
The lugs, bottom bracket shell and fork crown are all Henry James. Because the back of the head lugs don't have any tips, these are early model Henry James lugs. Hank added the tips sometime before 1985. The Everest look alike fork crown was narrower than the Henry James crown. The width of this crown indicates it is a Henry James.
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Built out Redcay
This is the 1984 James Redcay described above. I built it out with Shimano Arabesque components ( cranks, derailleurs, brakes, and brake levers) with Malliard 500 hubs and Suntour Symmetrik shift levers. The sunlight just happened to light up the cranks and chainrings! I recently added black brakehoods.
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Early 80s DeRosa
The campagnolo cranks brakes and derailleurs referenced in the thread above went to this bike. This is an early 80s DeRosa.