26 inch Rigid fork: Soma vs. Carver
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26 inch Rigid fork: Soma vs. Carver
My current (suspension) fork A2C measurement is 410mm. Both replacement offerings are available in 440mm, but the Carver is also available in 410mm. From what I've read, 30mm isn't a huge enough difference to be really concerned about the change in steering angle.
The first obvious difference is the price, the Soma I've seen priced at a few retailers for around $150 or $160 ish. While the Carver through Bikeman is priced at $79. Even though the Soma is about double the price, it's not prohibitively expensive.
I may run a front rack or basket(no fenders), but I'm not worried about having a certain setup, so just some/ any eyelets will be fine.
The bike will be ridden decently hard, I have a lot of good mountain biking trails of all levels of difficulty local to me.
Both forks seem to weigh close enough to each other as well.
Is the Soma price tag just paying for brand name tubing? Or is it likely that the Soma is really quite a bit nicer than the Carver? Butting, finish, welds etc. From people's experience on the forums, the Carver forks are quite good as far as cheap forks go.
Just looking for overall thoughts on these choices...
Oh yeah this is the bike:
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I bought a Carver and I like it just fine. I’d base the decision on whether you’d want to look at straight or curved blades on that particular bike.
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The mid-blade mounts on the Carver are a bonus. I think the straight blades would look at home on your frame.
No experience with either. When I needed a fork for my Stumpjumper, I found a chrome Tange in the basement of the LBS. It was cheap and it works.
No experience with either. When I needed a fork for my Stumpjumper, I found a chrome Tange in the basement of the LBS. It was cheap and it works.
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The Soma brand tends to make their forks out of Tange Infinity tubing which I think is meant to be lighter, and being curved would have some theoretical damping due to the nature of the curve. The Carver is based off the old Kona P2 fork designs, which are nice forks too, and having a midfork eyelets is pretty nice.
If it were my money I'd probably take the Carver, I have a P2 Kona at 410mm on an old Mongoose and I think it's great. Save the money for more fun parts.
If it were my money I'd probably take the Carver, I have a P2 Kona at 410mm on an old Mongoose and I think it's great. Save the money for more fun parts.
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I purchased a Carver and had some difficulty fitting it, but can't remember exactly. Anyway, it's held up well for a couple of years. If I were looking for a rigid fork now, first place would be Surly, then Of Spirit bikes (Mark Slate's company).
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My current (suspension) fork A2C measurement is 410mm. Both replacement offerings are available in 440mm, but the Carver is also available in 410mm. From what I've read, 30mm isn't a huge enough difference to be really concerned about the change in steering angle.
The first obvious difference is the price, the Soma I've seen priced at a few retailers for around $150 or $160 ish. While the Carver through Bikeman is priced at $79. Even though the Soma is about double the price, it's not prohibitively expensive.
I may run a front rack or basket(no fenders), but I'm not worried about having a certain setup, so just some/ any eyelets will be fine.
The bike will be ridden decently hard, I have a lot of good mountain biking trails of all levels of difficulty local to me.
Both forks seem to weigh close enough to each other as well.
Is the Soma price tag just paying for brand name tubing? Or is it likely that the Soma is really quite a bit nicer than the Carver? Butting, finish, welds etc. From people's experience on the forums, the Carver forks are quite good as far as cheap forks go.
Just looking for overall thoughts on these choices...
Oh yeah this is the bike:
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Thanks for the replies, I'm leaning more toward the Carver now I think. It comes in 410mm, the strait blades will look better on the frame, and money saved can go into some nicer tires. Thanks again for the input, always helps to get extra opinions when decision making.
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P.S. I found this: https://www.amazon.ca/OS-Bikes-Mount.../dp/B07P1BN293
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I couldn't find a picture of the Of Spirit fork any where. The Of Spirit page had a price but no pictures that I could find.
P.S. I found this: https://www.amazon.ca/OS-Bikes-Mount.../dp/B07P1BN293
P.S. I found this: https://www.amazon.ca/OS-Bikes-Mount.../dp/B07P1BN293
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Absolute thread drift here, with disk brake content. When I went looking for a picture of this fork, which apparently is a 29" fork, I found the geometry charts on the OS website and a random forum discussion of how the fork is short and has a relatively high rake, and the OS bike with the ridged fork has a very low trail number for a 29" mountain bike. I'm going to have to go back and re-read some things, but this fork might be a good candidate for running a 29" fork on a 26" frame and ending up with a a reasonable trail number.
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I got the Carver!
Just got the fork installed, only had the chance to ride around the block. First impressions compared to the original fork: lighter and more precise feeling. I'll take some more pictures and let you guys know how it handles out on the trails.
Next will likely be a new handlebar/stem combo, something with a good amount of rise and sweep. Maybe the velo orange klunker bars, or a Jones Hbar. It would just be nice to shorten the steerer some more! Lol
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I like it
The fork feels great! Rides much like it did before, but without that *BOOIING!!* feeling when you hit bumps. Lol. But I'd say perfect for an old short travel 410mm A2C suspension fork replacement.
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Hello. I’m in a similar situation as the original poster and was hoping to get some advice. I have a 2001 Marin Hawk Hill which I use primarily for riding around town and on rail trails. I would like to swap out the insync grind 328 fork for a rigid fork. The axel to crown measures 450mm with me not in the bike. I can’t find specs on the fork but I think it’s 80mm of travel. To me the bike sits a little high in the front so I wouldn’t mind it being lowered a little but I don’t want to totally mess up the handling. I was hoping to get an inexpensive fork on Amazon but they all seem to be around 395mm or less.
The forks I have identified as possibilities are;
Carver 410mm
Carver 440mm
Soma 440mm
Surly Troll 420mm
Dimension 395mm
If I take into account 15-20mm of sag it seems I would be between 410 and 440mm. Any thoughts on which way to go? Also, I’m currently riding Schwalbe Marathon tires in 26x1.5 so I don’t need massive amounts of tire clearance and don’t ever anticipate needing it.
Thanks for your help.
The forks I have identified as possibilities are;
Carver 410mm
Carver 440mm
Soma 440mm
Surly Troll 420mm
Dimension 395mm
If I take into account 15-20mm of sag it seems I would be between 410 and 440mm. Any thoughts on which way to go? Also, I’m currently riding Schwalbe Marathon tires in 26x1.5 so I don’t need massive amounts of tire clearance and don’t ever anticipate needing it.
Thanks for your help.