Roadies, not on board with assist - prepare to be C&V'd
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It is a cute commercial -
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I just don't see it happening. All of the 'stealth' bikes top out at 28mph which won't help on a slight downhill, tailwind or sprint. I think they're great for commuting but don't think they belong in group rides. I have a Copenhagen wheel I occasionally use for commuting and don't think it would be very save riding in close proximity to others.
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I say bring the tech on! But the unearned speed mentioned before is an issue. As is e-riders all of a sudden wheelsucking their way into pacelines un-invited and w/o asking.
Happened to us recently. Slow-pacing the wife to get some easy miles in while spending time with her. We passed this guy on an ebike, who immediately jumped on our tail. I was going to tell him to pass, but, what the heck, its a beautiful day and I had never seen one of these in the wild. But were doing our pace (about 18-19) and he thinks were tiring or unable to go faster, so he rides up and offers to pull. So why not? He just bumps it up a couple of mph to about 21. Ok. I just keep an eye on the missus to make sure she can hold the pace, and she does. Then the guy goes into IAB position. Really? Good thing that his parking lot came up shortly after and he peeled off, but I was about to tell him, thx but no thx. I think for pacing theyd be ok, but you gotta know whos riding the thing.
Happened to us recently. Slow-pacing the wife to get some easy miles in while spending time with her. We passed this guy on an ebike, who immediately jumped on our tail. I was going to tell him to pass, but, what the heck, its a beautiful day and I had never seen one of these in the wild. But were doing our pace (about 18-19) and he thinks were tiring or unable to go faster, so he rides up and offers to pull. So why not? He just bumps it up a couple of mph to about 21. Ok. I just keep an eye on the missus to make sure she can hold the pace, and she does. Then the guy goes into IAB position. Really? Good thing that his parking lot came up shortly after and he peeled off, but I was about to tell him, thx but no thx. I think for pacing theyd be ok, but you gotta know whos riding the thing.
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One of my concerns with regards to this is the unearned speed thing. Not in the sense that they don't deserve to go that fast, but in that it didn't take them time to get that fit to go that fast; that time usually provides some learning experience - a bit a bike handling and common sense/courtesy in the process. I've already seen some ebike buffoonery and I suspect that it'll get worse. But, as noodle soup says, I generally avoid the MUPs.
Blasting on and off the bike path, wrong way, no concept of the movement of other "things" around them. I got taken out by one turning onto a bike path going the wrong way at 25MPH. (But he was at least honorable enough to pay for the broken parts on my bike caused by the crash.)
But yea, basically idiots w/ missiles.
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True, but....
Ad agencies are NOT investing a big percentage of their R&D budget making race-like e-bikes as light and stealthy and appealing as possible. Maybe spending more on e-bikes than on conventionally powered machines???
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In NYC the delivery jackasses are a true menace. Blasting onto the sidewalk from going the wrong way on a one way street through pedestrians at full speed. See that ish every day, at least once, in midtown.
Blasting on and off the bike path, wrong way, no concept of the movement of other "things" around them. I got taken out by one turning onto a bike path going the wrong way at 25MPH. (But he was at least honorable enough to pay for the broken parts on my bike caused by the crash.)
But yea, basically idiots w/ missiles.
Blasting on and off the bike path, wrong way, no concept of the movement of other "things" around them. I got taken out by one turning onto a bike path going the wrong way at 25MPH. (But he was at least honorable enough to pay for the broken parts on my bike caused by the crash.)
But yea, basically idiots w/ missiles.
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Motor bikes or being a tool to allow me to ride
I am against them as they are "motor" bikes, whether it is electric or gas powered. However, as I approach 70 and trying to recover from hip replacement and lumbar spinal fusion of 3 vertebrae in the last 18 months makes me step back and think a little. If I am to continue to be able to do something I love, I may need to consider an e-bike. Just to be able to ride and enjoy the outdoors. It is not about winning a group sprint or flying down the trail like an idiot. It's not having to give up the high that riding a bike at any speed. "Any day you can ride is a good day. "
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How does a pedal-assist ebike work anyway? I see 28mph ability referenced, but I'd have to pedal. Does a 10rpm cadence qualify as pedaling, putting out 20 watts, and as long as I do that, the bike will get up to 28mph?
I believe this probably isn't how they work, but really don't know how they do. How many human watts really have to be exerted to do 28mph on flat ground with one of these bikes?
I believe this probably isn't how they work, but really don't know how they do. How many human watts really have to be exerted to do 28mph on flat ground with one of these bikes?
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The thing that miff's me the most is why some e-bikes seem to intentionally mask the fact they are e-bikes. Still not certain how e-bikes can be allowed on a non-motorized path without setting up some precedent that will eventually let others successfully challenge in courts to get other motorized vehicles on the mup's.
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