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Old 07-29-18, 01:05 PM
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Brooks Saddle Leather Quality/Grade?

I can't seem to find any information on what leather Brooks uses on their saddles, does anyone know? For the price, I'm assuming it's full grain leather rather than top grain leather? Just wanting to make sure before I pull the trigger on a purchase. Thanks!
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Old 07-29-18, 06:12 PM
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To be honest, I don’t know for sure. I added one last Spring to my bike and really like it. I ended up with a gift card I didn’t know what to with, so I figured I wasn’t risking anything by using the card for the Brooks. I’d buy another one in a heartbeat. It takes a few miles to break in, but you probably already know that. I probably have a little over 1000 miles on it and the leather looks great, so I expect it to last a long time.
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Old 07-29-18, 06:21 PM
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Huh?
Isnt the only significant difference between the two the notion that full
grain generally lasts longer in most applications?
Brooks saddles are legendary for their longevity.
In that case why would you care which leather is used?
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The leather on my B17 with copper rivets is definitely of a higher grade than that on my standard (but blue) B17. I don't know if this is random or intentional.
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The leather varies in grain type, because no two cows are exactly alike, and saddles are cut from across the hide. But the leather is a consistent thickness and hardness. I've used numerous Brooks saddles over the years, and they are long-lasting. I have worn out a couple of Brooks saddles over the years, but they lasted longer than the Specialized and Selle Italia saddles which I had also worn out.

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I can't really speak to the quality of the leather but I've had my Brooks saddle for almost a year now and love it. I was pretty nervous hearing all the horror stories about how painful it can be to break in but I thought mine was super comfortable from the very first ride and it just got better. I commute to work about 30 miles round trip and it's been great.
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I'm not the biggest fan of Brooks, but I have many different leather saddles on my vintage bikes and in the longevity department, Brooks is among the best.
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Originally Posted by InvolHuma View Post
I can't seem to find any information on what leather Brooks uses on their saddles, does anyone know? For the price, I'm assuming it's full grain leather rather than top grain leather? Just wanting to make sure before I pull the trigger on a purchase. Thanks!
Not sure if it makes a difference. You have testimonials from many, many people who have used Brooks for many decades, so you know they last a long time. Not forever, but then again, neither do synthetic saddles, which are prone to fabric wearing out, foam or gel deteriorating, and the plastic shell underneath drying out and cracking.

I can speak to the longevity of my Brooks, which is about 6 years old, has been used now for many thousands of miles, even got wet a few times. It is obviously not brand new anymore, but nowhere near the end of its useful life. If I were to hazard a guess, I would say I have at least another 10 years before I need to replace it.
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Old 07-31-18, 08:25 AM
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I only put a few hundred miles on a dark color B17...and it's ridging.
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Old 07-31-18, 10:51 AM
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I took the time to google the answer: As I understand it, "full grain" is just as it comes, "top grain" has been sanded to remove imperfections. My Brooks saddles look pretty smooth to me so I imagine they are top grain.

All Brooks saddles, however, aren't made from the same leather. I've always bought the more expensive Team Pros because they are made from thicker, obviously higher quality leather.
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at one point they sold a higher grade, or so it was claimed ,
Un dyed leather from pasture raised grass fed cow hides .

as opposed to feedlot 'finished' cattle hides..
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You might find this interesting and informative about leather saddles.

https://janheine.wordpress.com/2018/...s-best-for-me/
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Old 07-31-18, 01:19 PM
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I have two Brooks Pro saddles, both copper rivet, one from 1979 and one from 1980. The 79 is still in use, the 80 is out of use, but still usable, although the leather is cracking at the front rivets. It seems the leather is good enough to last many 10s of thousands of miles and many decades of use.
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Old 07-31-18, 02:39 PM
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I still have the team pro I bought in 1975. a little hole stretching at the nose rivets is all ..

scrape along the top , done in the 80s, smoothed it self out over time..


Jan always has things to say in his expensive magazine , that he also sells.
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Dunno why Brooks stopped selling the "Select" range of their saddles, that supposedly came with the thicker leather.


Doing so means I probably won't ever buy a leather saddle from them again, when I always thought that a Select B17 would be in my future.
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The original B72 is on my 1968 Sprite and it is just fine.
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