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Old 09-16-16, 01:54 AM
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I have NEVER regretted going on a ride;
I have often regretted not going when I could have!


I am grateful for the headwind that challenged me today!
I am grateful for the tailwind that helped me go fast!


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GRANT UNTO THYSELF...... works just fine for myself.
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Old 09-16-16, 06:58 AM
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For those who actually pray, the full prayer goes like this...
God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change,
the courage to change the things which can be changed
and the wisdom to know the difference
living one day at a time,
enjoying one moment at a time
accepting hardship as a pathway to peace
taking, as Jesus did, this sinful world as it is, not as I would have it
trusting that You will make all things right if I surrender to Your will
so that I may be reasonably happy in this life
and supremely happy with You forever in the next.
Amen.

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Old 09-16-16, 07:11 AM
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Old 09-16-16, 09:41 AM
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The serenity prayer is about salvation, not cycling. It is a petition for the ability to discern what is important for salvation and what isn't.

Turning the sacred into something profane is offensive to many. I realize that it is done every day and in much worse ways but some here find it highly offensive.

Y'all can mock God if you want. Good luck with it though because Hell is real - eternity with the bike of your dreams, endless country roads and no way to pump your tires.

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Originally Posted by TimothyH
The serenity prayer is about salvation, not cycling. It is a petition for the ability to discern what is important for salvation and what isn't.

Turning the sacred into something profane is offensive to many. I realize that it is done every day and in much worse ways but some here find it highly offensive.

Y'all can mock God if you want.
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OP's post was not profane. but thanks for revealing your prejudices.
Now we know what size horse you ride, the 'high' one. They are hard to get off, right?
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Old 09-16-16, 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Wildwood
OP's post was not profane. but thanks for revealing your prejudices.
Now we know what size horse you ride, the 'high' one. They are hard to get off, right?

The word profane simply means common.

St. Paul was knocked off his horse. We should all be so lucky.


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Originally Posted by TimothyH
The serenity prayer is about salvation, not cycling. It is a petition for the ability to discern what is important for salvation and what isn't.

Turning the sacred into something profane is offensive to many. I realize that it is done every day and in much worse ways but some here find it highly offensive.

Y'all can mock God if you want. Good luck with it though because Hell is real - eternity with the bike of your dreams, endless country roads and no way to pump your tires.

PAX


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It is things like this that tempt me to join the anti-pc movement.
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Old 09-16-16, 11:51 AM
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“I pedal my thing and you peddle your thing.
I am not on this bicycle to be the captain,
And you are not on your bicycle to be my stoker.
You are you, and I am I,
Maybe one of us is a Popeyeist and the other is Rastafarian.
And if by chance we find each other on the same tandem,
all of the above is subject to change.”
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Old 09-16-16, 12:07 PM
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Thanks for sharing SammyJ. I have never seen the long version posted below yours before. Whether it is accurate or not, honestly I find it tedious. The cycling one is the one I shall embrace!
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Originally Posted by TimothyH
The word profane simply means common.



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Does it? I can't find that meaning in any dictionary.
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Old 09-16-16, 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Gerryattrick
Does it? I can't find that meaning in any dictionary.
It was a new one on me, so I looked it up, couldn't find the reference either.
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Originally Posted by 02Giant
It was a new one on me, so I looked it up, couldn't find the reference either.
"profane" and "vulgar" are more or less synonyms in current English. The original definition of profane was "not religious", and the original definition of vulgar was "common"... as in belonging to common people as opposed to more refined or elite people. Languages evolve.
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Originally Posted by DiabloScott
"profane" and "vulgar" are more or less synonyms in current English. The original definition of profane was "not religious", and the original definition of vulgar was "common"... as in belonging to common people as opposed to more refined or elite people. Languages evolve.
Profane and vulgar are not "more or less" synonyms. TimothyH was wrong - profane does not mean common.
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Originally Posted by Gerryattrick
Profane and vulgar are not "more or less" synonyms.
In modern usage they are. Here, straight from MSWord:



Originally Posted by Gerryattrick
TimothyH was wrong - profane does not mean common.
Correct, and it never did. Vulgar used to mean common though.
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Originally Posted by DiabloScott
In modern usage they are. Here, straight from MSWord:





Correct, and it never did. Vulgar used to mean common though.

My mistake. You learn something every day.
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Nobody needs to get worked up over this. The serenity prayer is little to do with salvation. In any case, cycling is, or can be a meditative exercise; now, the nature of that meditation is personal. And if you`re not careful (ie paying attention) you may crash yer bike doin` it.

There`s something to think about!
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It's dust-ups like this that make me almost - almost - miss this forum.

The Serenity Prayer is beautiful and is deeply meaningful to millions of people.

I can understand why someone might take offense to a parody of it.

Truth is, many people find serenity in daily or "recreational" activities.

Recently, while kayaking (my latest interest) in the middle of nowhere, watching eagles fly about and the forest rise up out of the morning mist, I experienced serenity that was most soothing to the soul.

IIRC, this thread will be moved to Foo.
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Old 09-17-16, 08:24 AM
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BTW, Debussy wrote an orchestral work entitled Danses Sacree Et Profane. The was nothing vulgar about the Danse Profane. Nice work. Give it a listen.
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So, a guy writes a 'prayer' based on a fairly trite sentiment expressed by 'philosophers' over the centuries and publishes it in a magazine in the 1950's and it becomes, unlike almost anything else written by man, untouchable and forbidden to be parodied?
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Originally Posted by Dudelsack
BTW, Debussy wrote an orchestral work entitled Danses Sacree Et Profane. The was nothing vulgar about the Danse Profane. Nice work. Give it a listen.
A beautiful piece.


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In English speaking Western influenced secret societies and closed orders within traditional religions, the word "profane" is a noun and refers to outsiders who are uninitiated into the rites of the societies. One interpretation says the term derives from the Latin "pro fanum" for "Outside the temple". No idea whether that's credible or even good Latin.

In that context, Timothy H was correct. Commoners, common people, the rabble outside the order of the society, were considered to be the profane.

But like many words it carries more than one meaning, and usages change over time.

Perhaps interestingly, Reinhold Niebuhr, who is attributed as author of the Serenity Prayer, might himself have been cast as a "profane" or outsider to the traditional or orthodox Christian institutions. In his young adult career he was a socialist, political activist and polemicist, all considered unusual and radical for his era.
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Wow. Interesting wiki on Niebuhr. Carl Sagan once remarked that he liked science because you could never get anyone to change their minds about religion or politics. He obviously knew nothing about Niebuhr. I'll have to put him on my reading list.

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