1990 Bill Holland w/ Superbe Pro CL find. Pinch me.
03-09-10, 09:58 PM
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1990 Bill Holland w/ Superbe Pro CL find. Pinch me.
I think I got lucky with this one. Today I scored a 1990 Bill Holland in excellent condition from a local Cl listing. It has full Superbe Pro (except the DT shifters). I believe it is the last generation Superbe Pro 7 speed index shifting. It also has the brakes with the hidden springs. The overall condition is probably 85 or 9/10. It is the first bike I have with Shimano dropouts. If there is any interest I can post some pre-cleanup photos. The bike has its previous owners name painted on (originally) and is painted by Joe Bell. The size is a sort-of strange 59x56. Does that sound normal?
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03-09-10, 10:30 PM
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59x56.....gotta be a true custom build. That top tube is mighty short.
If it works for you that's a real nice find.
If it works for you that's a real nice find.
03-09-10, 10:30 PM
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After a quick wipe it is as close to a "10" as possible for a 20 year old bike. The more I look at it the more it looks like a special custom frame. Enjoy the pics.
Shiny brakes even without buffing them...
Matching Silca pump with campy head
Beautiful detail on brake bridge
Shiny brakes even without buffing them...
Matching Silca pump with campy head
Beautiful detail on brake bridge
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03-09-10, 10:36 PM
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03-09-10, 11:00 PM
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Steel is real, baby!
Very, VERY nice!
So, what's with the shifters? They look right to me...
So, what's with the shifters? They look right to me...
03-09-10, 11:19 PM
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Lovely, apart from those nasty cables.
Surely you could get stainless ones in 1990? Cheap replacements, maybe?
Surely you could get stainless ones in 1990? Cheap replacements, maybe?
03-09-10, 11:21 PM
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Wow!
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03-09-10, 11:31 PM
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Steel is real, baby!
Ah. They look almost identical to the Superb Pro shifters of that vintage. Will you be swapping them out so that you have the complete gruppo?
BTW, after seeing your nickname at least a hundred times, it just clicked. Guy Gadois... tooo funny! A comic genius, that man was!
BTW, after seeing your nickname at least a hundred times, it just clicked. Guy Gadois... tooo funny! A comic genius, that man was!
03-09-10, 11:40 PM
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Ah. They look almost identical to the Superb Pro shifters of that vintage. Will you be swapping them out so that you have the complete gruppo?
BTW, after seeing your nickname at least a hundred times, it just clicked. Guy Gadois... tooo funny! A comic genius, that man was!
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This is the reason I sit here looking at CL umpteen bazillion times a day!
Congratulations. That would easily beat my Tommasini Sintesi as the find of the year.
Those shifters are fine by the way. Function as intended, and will work fine for you until you score Superbe Pro shifters.
Whatever it is worth, I just replaced my Kirk Terraplane desktop picture with your Bill Holland. Yep, its that nice.
Congratulations. That would easily beat my Tommasini Sintesi as the find of the year.
Those shifters are fine by the way. Function as intended, and will work fine for you until you score Superbe Pro shifters.
Whatever it is worth, I just replaced my Kirk Terraplane desktop picture with your Bill Holland. Yep, its that nice.
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03-10-10, 05:28 AM
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$200 that is a GREAT score! Custom built, Joe Bell paint I assume, just spectacular.....happy to take it off your hands if that top tube is too short!!!!!!!
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That...is a helluva find. A steal even. Gorgeous. And the nasty cable replacement and cleaning the corrosion of the adjuster threads will make you feel as though you actually had to do something to fix it up, hah!
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That's a great bike - congratulations from a fellow Bill Holland owner!
Holland tends to fly under the radar in terms of steel bikes, because his frames were never common and he does custom titanium stuff now. But the workmanship is uniformly outstanding, and if mine is anything to go by, they ride beautifully. I suspect that much of his work has been custom throughout his career - mine was a custom order as well, though the dimensions are more "normal." Mine has a very 90's pink-yellow-orange fade paint scheme, also by JB, who has shared a shop with Holland for decades. Because they're not well known outside of the SoCal area, they tend to sell for much less than their value in terms of ride and build quality - yours was an outright steal, of course, but I bought mine on ebay, shipped, for under $500 (from the same era as your, but with mostly Dura Ace except for Campagnolo brakes). If your fork is like mine, then that's an internal crown and not a unicrown fork, BTW.
Again, beautiful bike, from a master builder whose work deserves wider appreciation.
Holland tends to fly under the radar in terms of steel bikes, because his frames were never common and he does custom titanium stuff now. But the workmanship is uniformly outstanding, and if mine is anything to go by, they ride beautifully. I suspect that much of his work has been custom throughout his career - mine was a custom order as well, though the dimensions are more "normal." Mine has a very 90's pink-yellow-orange fade paint scheme, also by JB, who has shared a shop with Holland for decades. Because they're not well known outside of the SoCal area, they tend to sell for much less than their value in terms of ride and build quality - yours was an outright steal, of course, but I bought mine on ebay, shipped, for under $500 (from the same era as your, but with mostly Dura Ace except for Campagnolo brakes). If your fork is like mine, then that's an internal crown and not a unicrown fork, BTW.
Again, beautiful bike, from a master builder whose work deserves wider appreciation.
03-10-10, 07:15 AM
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Congrats! That is absolutely gorgeous. Candidate for bargain of the decade. JohnDThompson has posted in other threads that the fork crown is likely a Takahashi (internally lugged as Picchio indicates), and it seems Holland favored them.
Did I already say that's a gorgeous frame?
03-10-10, 10:00 AM
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