jdbassi

I'm looking for a strong, decent, lightweight (steel, aluminum if possible, optional) frameset with the top tube sloping forward towards the stem (not sure if I described that correctly, sorry) in the 100-500 price range. I love the feel of my Montgomery Ward conversion, but I feel like it's time to upgrade to a real track frame and as my bike for the rest of my life if I like it.

Any recommendations are appreciated, thanks for the help in advance.

Elvo

TT oliK

homebrewk

Doesn't have a negative sloping top tube, brah.

I think you'll have a hard time finding that kind of frame in your price range. The only two I can think of are the Affinity Lo Pro and the Cinelli Mash, which are both way out of your budget. The only thing I can see is an old tarck pursuit frame, which may be hard finding.

hamish5178

You could always wait for the Kagero, but I doubt you could build one for under $500.

8bits

https://affinitycycles.com/store/affinity-lo-pro.html
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mashtofu

Or pay $100 more for chrome.

Scooper

My back aches just looking at that.

cinemattic

yea, that saddle to drop is pretty harsh.

however, i just got mine in a large, and it's not bad at all. in fact, it's one of the more comfortable bike's i've ridden. going back and forth btwn the lo pro and the leader, i much prefer the lo pro. as discussed before, it's just an elongated seat tube, with normal "tark geometry". i think that thomson seatpost they have on there is a stupid kinda setback. but that's just me

don't be scurred of the sloping top tube. it's an excellent ride

hamish5178

The drop on the Lo-Pro probs isn't any more severe than that of a normal road bike that isn't set up with a bunch of spacers and a positive stem. People just freak out because of the way the tt slopes.

also, DAT rear tire clearance.

homebrewk

Woah, I didn't even notice that until now...

8bits

What Leader model you've got?

cinemattic

721 TR v2. it's great, and an awesome backup bike, now that i got the affinity. gonna be hard to part with it when my GF decides she needs more room for..... whatever

Submison

Motobecane Team Track https://www.bikesdirect.com/products/...team_track.htm you win

max5480

you should definitely get a kagero if you want aluminum, but there are only like 60 framesets going to be made, so they might be a little expensive
or affinity if steel

jdbassi

thanks for the help guys. yeah that affinity lo pro is catching my eye, but so is that kagero. is that the full name of the bike brand?

vw addict

why?

8bits

here's a less back breaking pick of the lo pro

toosahn

Less back-breaking only because of the viewing angle.

Honestly, I don't understand why people ride pursuit frames on the road. I mean, they are fine for very small distances, but there's no getting around that saddle to bar drop unless you get a frame a few sizes larger than normal.

Comfort = speed in the long run

Scrodzilla

The Kagero is a frame being produced by Leader for Pedal Consumption. As max said though, production will be extremely limited so it may be hard to get your hands on one.

jdbassi

Oh alright for sure. I might be headed towards the affinity then.
@vw addict; why not?

vw addict

going for street cred, brah? Awesome

jdbassi

street cred? that's why you're getting at me? cuz i want a track frame with a sloping top tube that not everyone has? so i can be noticed that i have the most expensive bike in my city? in my block? shooo, am i tripping or do i just see another person hating on another cyclist because of their wants.

hamish5178

You don't really know what you're talking about. What you're saying would be true for a real pursuit frame from the good'ol'days, one that has a 650 front wheel. Otherwise the only difference between a lo-pro and a "normal" bike is that the lo-pro has a longer seat-tube. I have a Mash and a Kilo and my riding position is pretty similar on both, my Mash just has less seat-post showing and my kilo has a shorter stem.

edit: also, headtube length.

vw addict

seriously, take it easy, WTF do you care what I think anyway.

cinemattic

yeesh. i bought mine to support my LBS cause the dudes in there always take care of me. didn't realize it was such a statement. if i was into tricking, i'd get the cyclone. if i was into road biking, i'd get the 212. if i was in san fran i'd get the mash.

just tryin to support the local dudes.