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Old 08-11-11, 11:38 AM
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Most of the comments here seem to be addressing "faster" group rides.

Lots of times bike shops and whoever will offer a couple different rides, geared towards different experience levels.

Go try to find a "beginner" ride, and you'll be able to keep up fine, while at the same time learning proper etiquette.
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Originally Posted by dsh
Lots of times bike shops and whoever will offer a couple different rides, geared towards different experience levels.

Go try to find a "beginner" ride, and you'll be able to keep up fine, while at the same time learning proper etiquette.
Great post dsh, I completely totally forgot about the group system, how it is usually set up for organized group rides; avoid the A/ 1st group and triathlon groups where most of the serious riders are, well at first or until you feel confident enough to do so. Stick with the B/ beginner groups until you learn the ropes or feel confident enough. Even for advanced riders, B groups are fun just as well. Just the other month, I overslept and missed the A group ride departing and rode in the B group instead. Even through I stuck out of the group with the only serious business full carbon set up; I had lots of fun learning new people and answering the numerous questions about my set up and pre/post/ riding techniques.

I also forget to mention group riding is not just serious business and trying to maintain a speed/ pace; it's actually much, much more fun than riding alone. You get to socialize much more with fellow riders, meeting many new people who often times become lifelong friends. It's much more entertaining and interesting than listening to an ipod on say a workout grind. You will feel much safer nonetheless, with a group ride I often times find my group occupying entire directions of a street; not to mention there's many more people to assist you in an emergency and many more eyes to keep a look out for one another.

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Originally Posted by Leukybear
Great post dsh, I completely totally forgot about the group system, how it is usually set up for organized group rides; avoid the A/ 1st group and triathlon groups where most of the serious riders are, well at first or until you feel confident enough to do so. Stick with the B/ beginner groups until you learn the ropes or feel confident enough. Even for advanced riders, B groups are fun just as well. Just the other month, I overslept and missed the A group ride departing and rode in the B group instead. Even through I stuck out of the group with the only serious business full carbon set up; I had lots of fun learning new people and answering the numerous questions about my set up and pre/post/ riding techniques.

I also forget to mention group riding is not just serious business and trying to maintain a speed/ pace; it's actually much, much more fun than riding alone. You get to socialize much more with fellow riders, meeting many new people who often times become lifelong friends. It's much more entertaining and interesting than listening to an ipod on say a workout grind. You will feel much safer nonetheless, with a group ride I often times find my group occupying entire directions of a street; not to mention there's many more people to assist you in an emergency and many more eyes to keep a look out for one another.
Encouraging indeed. I like the safety and the socializing aspect. As well at the things I'd learn from riders of different levels (and discipline).
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Just get this guy's gear ratio. You'll keep up with them on the hills and straightaways fa sho
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Old 08-11-11, 01:30 PM
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Just get this guy's gear ratio. You'll keep up with them on the hills and straightaways fa sho
what the hell was he smoking....
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Originally Posted by EpicSchwinn
Just get this guy's gear ratio. You'll keep up with them on the hills and straightaways fa sho
haha oh my! my kness hurt a bit looking at that
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Originally Posted by RaleighSport
what the hell was he smoking....
Some good ****, apparently.

That's the fastest man alive!
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as long as they're full of whiskey
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If you showed up to my A ride with a fixed, first I would laugh at you, then I would drop you off the back so fast you would be embarrassed to be alive. I do this with people that ride in my group in their aero bars too. I would have no problem if you joined the group ride with the old people on hybrids though.
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If you showed up to my A ride with a fixed, first I would laugh at you, then I would drop you off the back so fast you would be embarrassed to be alive. I do this with people that ride in my group in their aero bars too. I would have no problem if you joined the group ride with the old people on hybrids though.
If you showed up on my ride with a "crabon" fibre bike and the lycra clown duds, first I would laugh at you, then it would be YOU who would be embarrassed to be alive after getting your poseur ass dropped by a guy on a fixie.
Obviously, you are all talk and no walk. The best riders totally accept SS/FG riders.
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Old 08-11-11, 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Jandro
Ok fine. Quick credentials: I am a roadie, I ride with a group on my 40mi commute to work. We sometimes ride fast. I also ride in on my fixed gear with same group of people at around the same speeds.

On to your questions:

Yes you can ride with roadies provided the following:
-DON'T JUST LATCH ONTO A RANDOM GROUP RIDE. Please, this is beyond faux pas. Find a local group ride that allows new people to join and meet up with them.
-Correct gearing. A good rpm:speed target to shoot for is 95rpm:20-22mph. This equals out to abut 75-79 gear inches.
-Brakes (already covered - sounds like you're set)
-Point out obstacles - be vocal about your intentions (ex. "SLOWING!" "STOPPING!" etc)
-Don't overlap your wheels
-Don't overlap your wheels
-No sudden movements - be tranquilo, smooth
-Your fitness is up to snuff.

That's about it. Your drive train doesn't matter, how you ride does.

edit: that should at least get you rolling. Once you can ride in a group, you can start to try out pacelines (aka the best thing... EVER in the cycling world) and such.
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Old 08-11-11, 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by GeoKrpan
I live in a "great fixie dessert"
Pics of this?
Is it like a pie or cake?
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Not many fixed gear riders here, either, beyond the coffee-shop poseurs, so I do pretty much all of my group riding with roadies. Don't try to ride with the "A" group. You may be able to keep up on the flats but they will drop you on the downhills and not care. I have no problems with the "B" groups here -- I blow past them on the uphills and they catch me on the downhills.
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Wouldn't fg be ideal for smooth pacing? I know I'm a much more fluid, predictable and calm rider because of my time riding fixed.
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Originally Posted by ****zkid

haha oh my! my kness hurt a bit looking at that
The riser bars and Brooks B-33 saddle did it for me.
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The riser bars and Brooks B-33 saddle did it for me.
Would look even more weird with an old school dh couch/saddle on it.
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Originally Posted by ganapati
Wouldn't fg be ideal for smooth pacing? I know I'm a much more fluid, predictable and calm rider because of my time riding fixed.
I prefer riding fixed gear in groups because I find that adjusting my speed is much quicker and easier using my legs than using brakes.

N.B. I do have caliper brakes on my bike but seldom find a need to use them. When I do find that need, I'm darned glad I have them.
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Originally Posted by Dannihilator
Would look even more weird with an old school dh couch/saddle on it.
The B-33 design dates back to the 1930s so it's already pretty "old school."
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Originally Posted by MuppetMower
Pics of this?
Is it like a pie or cake?
I guess I went a little heavy on the s key.
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Originally Posted by JohnDThompson
The B-33 design dates back to the 1930s so it's already pretty "old school."
The B-33 looks great on the correct build, which that clearly isn't.

This is what I'm talking about....
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Some group rides are realllly fast, almost painful. Others are painfully slow. Not to mention all the group rides in between, depending on your area. Around here, it's either A or B. Try it out, just don't sign up for a hammerfest.
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Originally Posted by GeoKrpan
If you showed up on my ride with a "crabon" fibre bike and the lycra clown duds, first I would laugh at you, then it would be YOU who would be embarrassed to be alive after getting your poseur ass dropped by a guy on a fixie.
Obviously, you are all talk and no walk. The best riders totally accept SS/FG riders.
Bwahahaha, I was being sarcastic internet tough guy.
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Originally Posted by vw addict
Bwahahaha, I was being sarcastic internet tough guy.
Haw! I thought so, so I injected a little sarcasm of my own.
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Do it, if that group is cool with bringing someone new to group rides go with them! Listen, learn, and no sudden movements. Bring some snacks too, people love snacks.
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