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Old 06-02-18, 11:26 PM
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Because folks who say, 'what, there's no problem here' are functionally identical to arsonists.
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Great question.
Another great question is ‘do I look fat in this dress?’
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Originally Posted by Kimmo
Because folks who say, 'what, there's no problem here' are functionally identical to arsonists.
No it's not that actually. Actually it's people who functionally cannot accept the facts that there are multipl possible how answerrs. That is what that is about. I've stopped discussing this with you because you are one of those people that only accepts your answer as the right answer.

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On a related note. What would you (anyone) expect a $7500 bike to weigh?
I am trying to decide on the specs for a build. I haven't done this since 2000 and am surprised that the bikes are not much lighter then my current bike from 2000.
Maybe my expectations are to high but having a hard time justifying it.
I realize discs would make a difference.
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Originally Posted by 1500SLR
That is what that is about. I've stopped discussing this with you because you are one of those people that only accepts your answer as the right answer.
That's funny, I seem to recall you were the bloke insisting that carbon is too fragile for anything but race day...

I don't give a stuff if you only ride aluminium; that's your prerogative. But I'm free to scoff at your prescriptions for everyone else.
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Originally Posted by Kimmo
That's funny, I seem to recall you were the bloke insisting that carbon is too fragile for anything but race day...

I don't give a stuff if you only ride aluminium; that's your prerogative. But I'm free to scoff at your prescriptions for everyone else.
That's a complete misinterpretation of everything that I said, but it doesn't surprise me at all coming from you.
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Whether a bike is a light one is all about context and who you ask. If you're asking from casual curiosity and don't really care about a pound or two, a lower end or even mid-range road bike is light if it weighs around 20 pounds.
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Originally Posted by 1500SLR
That's a complete misinterpretation of everything that I said
Maybe a bit like concluding that I reckon the only right answer is mine...

I can coexist just fine with most folks. Toodle-oo
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Originally Posted by carlos danger
no 6,8kg bike will be durable enough for daily use. its race day only material.

That's completely wrong.
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Originally Posted by gt3racerich
On a related note. What would you (anyone) expect a $7500 bike to weigh?
I am trying to decide on the specs for a build. I haven't done this since 2000 and am surprised that the bikes are not much lighter then my current bike from 2000.
Maybe my expectations are to high but having a hard time justifying it.
I realize discs would make a difference.
Depends on the bike. Wheels are generally heavier as they're much wider than they were back in 2000. A pair of tubular Zipp 303s would be under 1100 grams, and 404s around 1250. Now they're 150-200 grams heavier across the board, as so many wheels are 25+mm wide versus the older 20-21mm.

Things are also generally more aerodynamic, more integrated, and have more proprietary parts. All bump up the price tag without dumping much weight.

But there's still some lightweight offerings. An Emonda SLR 6 is currently $4,099 and 14.5 lbs in a 56. . A Felt AR 2 is around $6000, but is focused much more on aero and would be closer to 16.

You can get a Canyon Ultimate or Aeroroad for around 5000-6000, though, and they'll be in the 14-15.5 lb range.

I built up a sub 2k bike that's also sub 16 lbs. I only build up bikes at this point. I'd have to replace too many things on a stock bike.

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Originally Posted by carlos danger
about 6,8kg is light.
if its above that its kinda heavy according to UCI.
in my world a bike under 10kg is light enough and also most likely durable enough for daily use. no 6,8kg bike will be durable enough for daily use. its race day only material.
the year 2000 called and wants its rule back. The UCI weight limit adopted in 2000 is 18 years out of date.
Even when adopted in in 2000 the UCI rule was motivated as much by cost containment, as safety, reliability concerns. (i.e. even in 2000 you could build a safe reliable 6kg bike, but it would cost a lot to outfit a 30 rider team with them.

I'm north of 90kg, and my everyday bike is south of 6kg.

The UCI rule is seriously outdated.
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Originally Posted by Brandonyatessr
i can't find how much my bike weighs. It's a 2015 Orbea Avant with mecanical ultegra... Can't seem to find the exact weight.
You need a Park scale. And....here we go
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Originally Posted by HTupolev
Do you have a bathroom scale? Weigh yourself, then weigh yourself holding the bike. Subtract the two numbers to get a rough bike weight measurement.
Brian Regan did this joke better...
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Originally Posted by DrIsotope
Did somebody say Light Bike?

I'd bet the 2010 model is a lighter Light Bike...
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Originally Posted by rubiksoval
Depends on the bike. Wheels are generally heavier as they're much wider than they were back in 2000. A pair of tubular Zipp 303s would be under 1100 grams, and 404s around 1250. Now they're 150-200 grams heavier across the board, as so many wheels are 25+mm wide versus the older 20-21mm.

Things are also generally more aerodynamic, more integrated, and have more proprietary parts. All bump up the price tag without dumping much weight.

But there's still some lightweight offerings. An Emonda SLR 6 is currently $4,099 and 14.5 lbs in a 56. . A Felt AR 2 is around $6000, but is focused much more on aero and would be closer to 16.

You can get a Canyon Ultimate or Aeroroad for around 5000-6000, though, and they'll be in the 14-15.5 lb range.

I built up a sub 2k bike that's also sub 16 lbs. I only build up bikes at this point. I'd have to replace too many things on a stock bike.
Thanks for the perspective. I wasn't thinking about the wider wheels, etc.
The Trek and Felt look like good bikes but not exactly what I want. I strongly considered Canyon but don't want to go that route for a few reasons.
So, I can build a bike, a little more Aero then mine (yet the frame is a little lighter), with Aero handlebars and wheels (both a little heavier then current), and be about 1/2 lb lighter.
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Originally Posted by gt3racerich
On a related note. What would you (anyone) expect a $7500 bike to weigh?
I am trying to decide on the specs for a build. I haven't done this since 2000 and am surprised that the bikes are not much lighter then my current bike from 2000.
Maybe my expectations are to high but having a hard time justifying it.
I realize discs would make a difference.
There is no real correlation between bike cost and bike weight.
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What is considered a "light" bike?

I've had plenty of people tell me about how super lightweight their brother in laws (or such) fancy bike is. They always mention how they could lift it with two fingers, (demonstrating with their fingers out) so I'm pretty sure this is the standard measurement for a "light" bike.
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Originally Posted by Brandonyatessr
I think my bike is light but how lite is lite?
If you think your're bike is light, you're winning! Why ask this question, do you want to be unsatisfied with your bike?

Basically what you're saying is, "Make me feel sh**ty about my bike."
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Originally Posted by wphamilton
Whether a bike is a light one is all about context and who you ask. If you're asking from casual curiosity and don't really care about a pound or two, a lower end or even mid-range road bike is light if it weighs around 20 pounds.
This, in the context of all bikes built for road use. Even in the context of racing (where light bikes are de rigeur and 20 lbs is considered quite heavy), I'd say that anything under the UCI minimum would more properly be called "super light."
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Originally Posted by gt3racerich
On a related note. What would you (anyone) expect a $7500 bike to weigh?
I am trying to decide on the specs for a build. I haven't done this since 2000 and am surprised that the bikes are not much lighter then my current bike from 2000.
Maybe my expectations are to high but having a hard time justifying it.
I realize discs would make a difference.
Off the shelf carbon fiber? Within 100g of UCI minimum, ready to roll with computer and cages. But for that price point, I'd be more interested in made-to-measure, maybe stainless: something really special.
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My lightest is 54cm at 6.8kg running weight with Look pedals and resin cages. For my tastes I don't think i'd pursue building a bike lighter than that in the future. I love climbing on this bike but my heavier builds have better feels with a wind factor present and are much more stable and confidence inspiring on descents.
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Originally Posted by SCRcat6
If you think your're bike is light, you're winning! Why ask this question, do you want to be unsatisfied with your bike?

Basically what you're saying is, "Make me feel sh**ty about my bike."
Chill bro... What I "basically" said, is what I "actually" posted. I just wanted to get a consensus of what normal people are happy with before I start getting weird about saving weight... Don't turn this into a thing... I like being involved with the forum and am happy to be here. Thank you for your comments, I hope you have a fantastic day... I know I will.
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Originally Posted by AlmostTrick
I've had plenty of people tell me about how super lightweight their brother in laws (or such) fancy bike is. They always mention how they could lift it with two fingers, (demonstrating with their fingers out) so I'm pretty sure this is the standard measurement for a "light" bike.
Exactly.

A "light" bike is any bike lighter than the one you currently ride.

Spend less time worrying about the weight of your bike and more time riding your bike.
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