What is considered a "light" bike?
06-10-18, 06:11 AM
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I don't see why people have to lose the contents of their bowels just because someone disagrees about the material a person should have their frame built out of. It really is stupid, ridiculous and banal. To get your rocks off over starting an argument with someone about it is even more dumb.
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06-10-18, 07:22 AM
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Well, not quite. 'Art' doesn't mean just anything, and it doesn't mean 'whatever I happen like and find interesting.' It's not a value judgement. We have to concede that people have somewhat varying understandings and appreciations of art, and it definitely has different meanings in different contexts, but we have to expect people to at least know what we are talking about if we want to use any common word. Also, while there is a culture of technology, and technology plays a significant role in culture as a whole, they are hardly synonymous.
I guess what I'm saying is that it's kind of funny for people to add "like a work of art" when they say they'd display a bike on a wall, because hardly anyone makes a point of displaying art. We just display whatever we find interesting and happen to like or take pride in - attractive prints or paintings, portraits, awards, etc. Giving something pride of place is the compliment; saying it's 'like a work of art,' is pretty meaningless.
OH! I just remembered something.... At the Edward Hopper house in Nyack, they display the artist's broken down old bicycle above the fireplace!
Yes, Hopper was very tall.
For reference, he is best known for this painting:
But here is one he did of a cyclist:
Now, is that getting far enough off topic?
I guess what I'm saying is that it's kind of funny for people to add "like a work of art" when they say they'd display a bike on a wall, because hardly anyone makes a point of displaying art. We just display whatever we find interesting and happen to like or take pride in - attractive prints or paintings, portraits, awards, etc. Giving something pride of place is the compliment; saying it's 'like a work of art,' is pretty meaningless.
OH! I just remembered something.... At the Edward Hopper house in Nyack, they display the artist's broken down old bicycle above the fireplace!
Yes, Hopper was very tall.
For reference, he is best known for this painting:
But here is one he did of a cyclist:
Now, is that getting far enough off topic?
06-10-18, 08:04 AM
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You're not going to hear the end of any other argument but anyway. In the vast majority of cases it is cheaper to replace a carbon frame than repair it. These kinds of write offs happen far more often than with alloy bikes. This returns back to the fact that you don't accept anybody elses position on this or very many other discussions.
There is so many people here with simple black or white opinions... In the end I just think you're looking for troll bait so I'm not going to play your game. It would not matter if I told you something that was right, wrong or indifferent. I think your just an argumentative person looking for an argument. Therefore, I'm simply going to withdraw from answering your pointless crap.
I don't see why people have to lose the contents of their bowels just because someone disagrees about the material a person should have their frame built out of. It really is stupid, ridiculous and banal. To get your rocks off over starting an argument with someone about it is even more dumb.
There is so many people here with simple black or white opinions... In the end I just think you're looking for troll bait so I'm not going to play your game. It would not matter if I told you something that was right, wrong or indifferent. I think your just an argumentative person looking for an argument. Therefore, I'm simply going to withdraw from answering your pointless crap.
I don't see why people have to lose the contents of their bowels just because someone disagrees about the material a person should have their frame built out of. It really is stupid, ridiculous and banal. To get your rocks off over starting an argument with someone about it is even more dumb.
06-10-18, 08:05 AM
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For the record, I have both Aluminium and carbon bikes. You and I have never had a discussion about the differences either...this is a forum though, where people discuss things...As far as argumentative, you may want to take a look at yourself. You have been arguing with about every member you have had a discussion with since you got here. When folks disagree, you resort to personal attacks. It got you banned once. Please look through my posts. You won’t see the same history...
06-10-18, 08:06 AM
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Yes this, repeatedly, beyond the point of insanity the material that a bike is made out of is inconsequential.If someone wanted to ride a steel or titanium bike in a grand tour there would be nothing stopping them in terms of weight. The benefit of carbon is that it can be molded into shapes that give better aerodynamic benefits at an elite level. But, how many of us here are elite riders? I would say less than 1% of the people who post here could ride fast enough for it to make any consequential difference.
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