Newbie Single Speed Build
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Newbie Single Speed Build
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I am making a list of items I am planning to order to do a SS conversion on a 1986 Nishiki Rally I recently purchased. I was hoping to get some insight on if I am on the right track here. Basically looking to tackle the drive train with this initial post. I have been reading the forums and soaking up as much info as I can, but still have lots to learn. At any rate here is what I am looking at:
1. Conversion Kit Fixie Bike Single Speed Shimano Adaptor:
https://www.amazon.com/Conversion-Fi...conversion+kit
2. Fulcrum 7 LG wheelset (shimano freehub):
Fulcrum Racing 7 LG Wheelset 2016 | Chain Reaction Cycles
3. Sugino Pista Crank (RD2 crank arms):
Sugino Pista Crank Black 46T Or 48T
4. Bottom Bracket:
This is were I am getting confused. Most literature is stating to go with a 68x103mm BB. However, on the Sheldon Brown site they recommend using a 68 x 107mm BB with RD crankset. Is RD2 considered the same?
Fixed Gear and Singlespeed Cranks and Cranksets for Bicycles from Harris Cyclery
5. Chain recommendations?
Am I on the right track for the most part? Thanks!
I am making a list of items I am planning to order to do a SS conversion on a 1986 Nishiki Rally I recently purchased. I was hoping to get some insight on if I am on the right track here. Basically looking to tackle the drive train with this initial post. I have been reading the forums and soaking up as much info as I can, but still have lots to learn. At any rate here is what I am looking at:
1. Conversion Kit Fixie Bike Single Speed Shimano Adaptor:
https://www.amazon.com/Conversion-Fi...conversion+kit
2. Fulcrum 7 LG wheelset (shimano freehub):
Fulcrum Racing 7 LG Wheelset 2016 | Chain Reaction Cycles
3. Sugino Pista Crank (RD2 crank arms):
Sugino Pista Crank Black 46T Or 48T
4. Bottom Bracket:
This is were I am getting confused. Most literature is stating to go with a 68x103mm BB. However, on the Sheldon Brown site they recommend using a 68 x 107mm BB with RD crankset. Is RD2 considered the same?
Fixed Gear and Singlespeed Cranks and Cranksets for Bicycles from Harris Cyclery
5. Chain recommendations?
Am I on the right track for the most part? Thanks!
Last edited by Duke Broadway; 08-03-16 at 10:10 PM.
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A few things to consider:
The rear wheel in that set is 130mm. Your frame is most likely 126mm spacing, so you'd have to cold-set it (basically bending the chain stays/seat stays) to accept the wheel.
It looks like those wheels don't come with QR skewers. Also, modern skewers may not have enough clamping force to keep the rear wheel from slipping in a frame with horizontal dropouts.
If I were you, I'd get a simple track/SS wheelset, add spacers as needed, and throw a SS freewheel on it. As far as cranks/BB, get the bottom bracket the retailer you're buying from recommends for the cranks you're buying. Sugino's website recommends a 103mm spindle for the RD2. RD and RD2 could very well be made to use different BB spindle lengths. As for chains, KMC makes good cheap ones.
The rear wheel in that set is 130mm. Your frame is most likely 126mm spacing, so you'd have to cold-set it (basically bending the chain stays/seat stays) to accept the wheel.
It looks like those wheels don't come with QR skewers. Also, modern skewers may not have enough clamping force to keep the rear wheel from slipping in a frame with horizontal dropouts.
If I were you, I'd get a simple track/SS wheelset, add spacers as needed, and throw a SS freewheel on it. As far as cranks/BB, get the bottom bracket the retailer you're buying from recommends for the cranks you're buying. Sugino's website recommends a 103mm spindle for the RD2. RD and RD2 could very well be made to use different BB spindle lengths. As for chains, KMC makes good cheap ones.
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Part of the fun with converting a bike to FG/SS is finding out that your estimates were off and that you'll need to buy different parts. Not the end of the world, just a reminder to relax and not be surprised if things don't go perfectly on your first try.
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A few things to consider:
The rear wheel in that set is 130mm. Your frame is most likely 126mm spacing, so you'd have to cold-set it (basically bending the chain stays/seat stays) to accept the wheel.
It looks like those wheels don't come with QR skewers. Also, modern skewers may not have enough clamping force to keep the rear wheel from slipping in a frame with horizontal dropouts.
If I were you, I'd get a simple track/SS wheelset, add spacers as needed, and throw a SS freewheel on it. As far as cranks/BB, get the bottom bracket the retailer you're buying from recommends for the cranks you're buying. Sugino's website recommends a 103mm spindle for the RD2. RD and RD2 could very well be made to use different BB spindle lengths. As for chains, KMC makes good cheap ones.
The rear wheel in that set is 130mm. Your frame is most likely 126mm spacing, so you'd have to cold-set it (basically bending the chain stays/seat stays) to accept the wheel.
It looks like those wheels don't come with QR skewers. Also, modern skewers may not have enough clamping force to keep the rear wheel from slipping in a frame with horizontal dropouts.
If I were you, I'd get a simple track/SS wheelset, add spacers as needed, and throw a SS freewheel on it. As far as cranks/BB, get the bottom bracket the retailer you're buying from recommends for the cranks you're buying. Sugino's website recommends a 103mm spindle for the RD2. RD and RD2 could very well be made to use different BB spindle lengths. As for chains, KMC makes good cheap ones.
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Its gonna be an adventure for sure. Especially with my knowledge and skillset.
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What seau grateau said.
Get a normal 120mm spacing nutted axle wheel.
How much do you weigh? Consider that when wheel shopping. That rear wheel has only 20 spokes. It's a taco waiting to be folded. And it has aluminum nipples. Personally, I won't use aluminum nipples.
Get a normal 120mm spacing nutted axle wheel.
How much do you weigh? Consider that when wheel shopping. That rear wheel has only 20 spokes. It's a taco waiting to be folded. And it has aluminum nipples. Personally, I won't use aluminum nipples.
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I weigh 200, trending down (started at 230 in march). Recommendations on a decent wheelset in that price neighborhood. I see BD has options, but not sure on the quality on those wheels. However my main ride is a BD ultegra fantom cross pro, and have enjoyed that.
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Yes, check Velomine.
Congrats on the weight loss. I don't know what your target weight is. But while you are in the area you are right now, I wouldn't use a low spoke count rear wheel. Especially if your roads are rugged and you plan on using low volume tires.
Congrats on the weight loss. I don't know what your target weight is. But while you are in the area you are right now, I wouldn't use a low spoke count rear wheel. Especially if your roads are rugged and you plan on using low volume tires.
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Thanks. Still plugging away. Dont really have a goal weight just be want to continue to get in better shape. I will check out Velomine. If something catches my eye I may see what you guys think.
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I like these. I don't know how he builds them so reasonably priced.
Sun CR18 Black 700c 36h Fixed Gear Singlespeed Wheelset Black Black Sun rims high flange Formula fixed gear track hubs wheels wheelset [0072774711871] - $115.00 Velomine.com : Worldwide Bicycle Shop, fixed gear track bike wheelsets campagnolo super r
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I like these. I don't know how he builds them so reasonably priced.
Sun CR18 Black 700c 36h Fixed Gear Singlespeed Wheelset Black Black Sun rims high flange Formula fixed gear track hubs wheels wheelset [0072774711871] - $115.00 Velomine.com : Worldwide Bicycle Shop, fixed gear track bike wheelsets campagnolo super r
Sun CR18 Black 700c 36h Fixed Gear Singlespeed Wheelset Black Black Sun rims high flange Formula fixed gear track hubs wheels wheelset [0072774711871] - $115.00 Velomine.com : Worldwide Bicycle Shop, fixed gear track bike wheelsets campagnolo super r
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I think its cause its just what I am use to, but always drawn to the wheelsets with the milled breaking surface. Do I need to retrain my brain here when picking a wheelset? I am drawn to the mavic cpx22 wheelset on velomine but they are out of stock.
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Hi, I also just finished my first single speed build this week, described elsewhere on BF (here), so here are some thoughts, take them as you will.
One thing I'd be concerned about is what Sheldon Brown mentions, that bikes without horizontal or sliding dropouts (i.e. vertical or semi-vertical) are difficult to get the right chain tension on. If I look at this picture elsewhere on BF of a 1986 Nishiki Rally, it doesn't look like this bike has horizontal dropouts (correct me if I'm wrong). So I think you'll need a chain tensioner, unless you get the deluxe Eno eccentric hub recommended by Sheldon Brown and then build up your own wheels (I didn't, but am considering it for winter).
You can get a whole single speed conversion kit at Nashbar for about $20, down to $17 with their ubiquitous discounts, that includes the spacers, three cogs, and chain tensioner. I find it works pretty well. Performance Bike also has them.
It's a beautiful crankset, I got one from Universal Cycles for about $100, which was the best price I could find.
Bottom bracket doesn't seem like a problem to me. The spacer kit means that you can reset the chainline pretty easy on a wheel set with a full-width freewheel. Also, with the relatively cheap spacer and sprocket that I used, and you're considering, you might not want to buy a very nice set of wheels, or else accept that you may have to replace the freewheel if you ever convert it back, since other users have said that the sprocket eventually damaged the freewheel splines. My freewheel is 23 years old, so I am using this for the single speed, and I've decided if I really like it, I'll get or build a new, single speed-specific wheel set.
Also, make sure that you get the right size chainring for your style of riding. I built a hybrid for both on- and off-road use, so I went 38x16, which is a bit big for the trail but just about right for the road. I got a 48T chainring with the crankset but can't imagine using it offroad or on the hills.
As far as I know, the only restriction is that the chain works with the Sugino chainrings and sprocket, so I went with 3/32". KMC-Z-72 with missing link to be specific, but lots of chains at this width for less than $10.
I hope that helps.
1. Conversion Kit Fixie Bike Single Speed Shimano Adaptor:
https://www.amazon.com/Conversion-Fi...conversion+kit
https://www.amazon.com/Conversion-Fi...conversion+kit
It's a beautiful crankset, I got one from Universal Cycles for about $100, which was the best price I could find.
Bottom bracket doesn't seem like a problem to me. The spacer kit means that you can reset the chainline pretty easy on a wheel set with a full-width freewheel. Also, with the relatively cheap spacer and sprocket that I used, and you're considering, you might not want to buy a very nice set of wheels, or else accept that you may have to replace the freewheel if you ever convert it back, since other users have said that the sprocket eventually damaged the freewheel splines. My freewheel is 23 years old, so I am using this for the single speed, and I've decided if I really like it, I'll get or build a new, single speed-specific wheel set.
Also, make sure that you get the right size chainring for your style of riding. I built a hybrid for both on- and off-road use, so I went 38x16, which is a bit big for the trail but just about right for the road. I got a 48T chainring with the crankset but can't imagine using it offroad or on the hills.
As far as I know, the only restriction is that the chain works with the Sugino chainrings and sprocket, so I went with 3/32". KMC-Z-72 with missing link to be specific, but lots of chains at this width for less than $10.
I hope that helps.
Last edited by bikeclub; 08-07-16 at 07:03 PM.
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