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Old 11-29-11, 11:36 AM
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1950's randonneur I am thinking of buying

(brought it, link to photo post - #post13562417)

I cant quite id the cranks or the seat. Its not cheap so I am not so looking for a second opinion on it.


photos big, so save and zoom in if you need to

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Looks nice! I hope it's your size?

I can't ID the crank or seat either, but along broad lines it's pretty obvious; good quality stuff but not top of the line. I'd put a new saddle on it, this one looks used up. That tiny little pannier cracks me up.

Whatever. I like it, and vote
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Thanks for the reply. I still dont know, most bikes I find of this age look like they have been dredged out of a canel.

Never had a bike with the hand opperated front derailleur and the little bags are cute. 150euros is alot of money so I might wait for another.,,
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That looks like a steal for 150 Euros. The derailleurs, rack, brakes, panniers, and fenders are worth far more by themselves, even if the frame turns out to be gaspipe. I'd be on the way out the door to go see it...
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Old 11-29-11, 01:21 PM
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I wouldn't hesitate to spend 150 euros on that - but that's me. Hopefully that bike stays together as is, but I see value in the fenders, the brake levers, what look to be really neat glass reflector jewels on the bar ends, cute little seat bag, frame pump, pannier bag (tool kit?), neat rack, wing nuts, etc. Lots of cool stuff there.

Looks like French Cyclo front and rear derailleurs. Can't tell for sure, but maybe a 4-spd freewheel? If it's a 5-speed, that derailleur alone is worth several times more than the asking price of the entire machine. The cranks are cottered steel - possibly Durax or Duprat - brand name is likely stamped on them. Can't remember what those brakes are called right now (PYL?)

Neat bike, fun project, and if it fits - I'm sure it rides very nicely.
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If it were larger, at 150 euros, I'd be asking if you were willing to facilitate a buy for me!! IMO, buy it, ride it, and then decide whether to keep it or resell it. You win either way!
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That bike is a worthy candidate for collection and restoration. The price is not bad at all. Do not, however, expect it to handle like a racing bike. Expect a more relaxed and stable ride quality, filled with the fun of addressing Old School components and the use there of.

Buy the bike. You can't loose, in my opinion.
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This forum is terrible, it really does not help with my 'little' bike buying problem!

excuse me while I put a few things up on ebay.fr to cover the cost of this potential purchase.
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What, did you expect someone was going to try to talk sense?
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Looks like a great bike. Rear rack may be integrated by the looks of it. The little bag is likely a tool bag, that sits behind panniers. I'd snag it for personal use at 150eu if offered to me.

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I Can't remember what those brakes are called right now (PYL?)
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Looks worth it to me. A rebuild and a good cleaning is the only restoration it needs...
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my guess (without any research) is that the crank is a Stronglight. They had a cottered crank that became the 49 (as copied by VO)
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is this bike unique and cool or what?what did your internet search tell you about the bike and the company/builder?can we safely assume the teeny panniers are so tiny to keep weight down on what the rider could carry or were the teeny panniers built before big ones were made?i like the originality and patina of bike!.congrats!.....what will you do with bike?clean and ride?restore?
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I'll try to talk some sense into you, unlike all the crazy folks round here:

BUY IT!!!!
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i thought they sold randonneurs at k-marts in france and that everyone has one
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Originally Posted by illwafer
i thought they sold randonneurs at k-marts in france and that everyone has one
And 650b Wheelsets grow on trees.
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Old 11-29-11, 08:22 PM
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It's worth it just for the frame pump.
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Those tiny panniers are HUGE!


In comparison that is.

Now, go buy the bike!!!
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I agree, go get it! I'd like to see some detailed pics when you get it home.
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Originally Posted by bibliobob
That looks like a steal for 150 Euros. The derailleurs, rack, brakes, panniers, and fenders are worth far more by themselves, even if the frame turns out to be gaspipe. I'd be on the way out the door to go see it...
I agree! Worth a good bit more than 150 euros.
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Old 11-29-11, 11:58 PM
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Originally Posted by big chainring
It's worth it just for the frame pump.
Cool, I didn't notice that at first. And check out the bar plugs - some kind of reflector.

For $200, you'd be crazy not to buy that (and I hate French bikes). There's just too much neat stuff there to pass.
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Do it. That bike is amazing.

The FD would get me, too, on the shifting. The placement of the RD is amazing. It's so far forward.

Sorry to be nonsensical. I don't have a spare 200 Euros right now, but I would find them for this bike.
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Old 11-30-11, 09:12 AM
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a real beauty! but why is the pic stamped 2009?
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Old 11-30-11, 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by ilikebikes
a real beauty! but why is the pic stamped 2009?
The more recent photos were smaller in file size.

Apparntly I get a chance to buy it on saturday morning, unless a frenchie jumps in front a buys it. I just brought a bike this evening for 40 euros so not sure how the wife will be impressed with another one so soon.

update on saturday.
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