Replacement Campy friction shifters for Benotto
07-27-20, 05:14 PM
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Replacement Campy friction shifters for Benotto
Hello, everyone!
I am rebuilding a Benotto 6-speed from the 80's. My shifters (Shimano index shifters that work with my Shimano 600 rear derailleur) are now broken and won't even friction shift. I am looking to replace them with some vintage Campagnolo friction shifters (braze-on), but was wondering if this is possible. If so, would you recommend Record, Super Record, Nuovo Record, Victory, or Triomphe (or another one?).
Thank you in advance for any help you are able to provide!
-- Ike
I am rebuilding a Benotto 6-speed from the 80's. My shifters (Shimano index shifters that work with my Shimano 600 rear derailleur) are now broken and won't even friction shift. I am looking to replace them with some vintage Campagnolo friction shifters (braze-on), but was wondering if this is possible. If so, would you recommend Record, Super Record, Nuovo Record, Victory, or Triomphe (or another one?).
Thank you in advance for any help you are able to provide!
-- Ike
07-27-20, 05:29 PM
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Welcome! Your choices are much less than you have listed Nuovo Record are the period correct shifters for that time frame. I don't recall ever seeing Record or Super Record as those "group sets" always used NR. Victory and Triomphe post dates NR. When it comes to friction shifters, the only thing to watch out for is the diameter of the lever where the cable wraps. Even then it is not that big a deal for a 6 speed.
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Thanks for the quick response! Just a follow up question, if I may: Does that mean that the other types won't work with that derailleur, or is it more of a style thing?
07-27-20, 08:24 PM
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You can use whatever shifters you want with whatever derailleurs from that era, for friction shift. Pull ratios were more or less the same.
They were all Record, not SR or NR. Try to avoid the last version with nylon inserts instead of a spring steel washer. I think these date to about 1984. The nylon insert shifters are distinguishable by their bulging conical covers. The regular version has a flat outer plate. I don't remember if the lower end campy shifters from that era were any good.
I thought the cheap Suntour power shifters worked as well as anything.
They were all Record, not SR or NR. Try to avoid the last version with nylon inserts instead of a spring steel washer. I think these date to about 1984. The nylon insert shifters are distinguishable by their bulging conical covers. The regular version has a flat outer plate. I don't remember if the lower end campy shifters from that era were any good.
I thought the cheap Suntour power shifters worked as well as anything.
07-27-20, 08:42 PM
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Victory work exactly the same, but the levers are more thin and not as cool looking (to me).
I have no idea what the differences are between NR and SR. I just call them "Record" and use them regularly. Unlike my Triomphe levers, I have to tighten the Record levers all the way (hard!) to keep them in place. Triomphe levers feel more smooth and "might" work better with a 7-speed cluster (not sure).
btw ... My Campy equipped Miyata has Shimano 600 levers. And even though I currently have some cooler looking Record levers in my bin, I'm not sure I want to replace the 600s, because they work so damn well! I never have to tighten them, and they're really smooth. Take that, 600 haters!
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OK- First.
Simplex Retrofriction.
Otherwise get a set of 6400 shifters- looks like around $50 off ebay- that's barely looking.
Simplex Retrofriction.
Otherwise get a set of 6400 shifters- looks like around $50 off ebay- that's barely looking.
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