Soma Rush vs Cinelli Tutto
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I just realized that the Soma costs 450 USD in the US vs 710 USD here in EU. Mind blown, will have to think it over and contact Soma directly. Retrogression wants $250 for shipping (nervous laughter)
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Yeah, I used to ride a Leader. I liked it too, enough to endorse them. I also used to date a girl named Kolleen who, at the time, I thought was great. She eventually ruined my credit and cheated on me with her neighbor. Like most intelligent people would, I learned from my mistakes and moved on to better things.
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^Oh boy...
Also, Based of the numbers @Scrodzilla posted, and I havent looked at the charts myself, It doesnt appear that the dimensions aren't much different than an All City Big Block.
My size 52 has a 55 TT. I believe Scrod rides a Thunderdome which has the same geometry...
I've lost the plot. I don't know what point I'm trying to make. Just get a wabi, seems to be the only thing we can agree on these days.
Also, Based of the numbers @Scrodzilla posted, and I havent looked at the charts myself, It doesnt appear that the dimensions aren't much different than an All City Big Block.
My size 52 has a 55 TT. I believe Scrod rides a Thunderdome which has the same geometry...
I've lost the plot. I don't know what point I'm trying to make. Just get a wabi, seems to be the only thing we can agree on these days.
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Nonesense.
A frame designed to accommodate cx should be made from stouter tubing than one made for a velodrome. As to that nebulous characteristic of ride quality, well, cromor is very similar to sp and better than sl. That Bruce Gordon test from way back rated Sl above prestige. There’s a whole lot of opinion therein, but the point is both tubests are very good. Different applications are best served by an apprpriate tube set.
Speaking of nonsense and dangled opinions, this thread is full of it. Why not help a dude out rather than blast him with non sequitors? What’s the point? Cuz it sucks...?
A frame designed to accommodate cx should be made from stouter tubing than one made for a velodrome. As to that nebulous characteristic of ride quality, well, cromor is very similar to sp and better than sl. That Bruce Gordon test from way back rated Sl above prestige. There’s a whole lot of opinion therein, but the point is both tubests are very good. Different applications are best served by an apprpriate tube set.
Speaking of nonsense and dangled opinions, this thread is full of it. Why not help a dude out rather than blast him with non sequitors? What’s the point? Cuz it sucks...?
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Hope the topicstarter has made some decision by now
Gonna write something just for those people who will get onto this forum topic while googling Tutto reviews. I own one for almost a year and I'm perfectly happy with it. I didn't know about Soma Rush when I was trying to choose a frameset, but even now, after checking it out, I prefer Tutto (at least for my purposes). The other options I was looking at the last year were Surly Steamroller and All-City Nature boy. I really liked the Nature boy, it has some large advantages over Tutto, like built-in chain tensioners and disc brakes compatibility, however it has sloping top tube, which I didn't like from the aesthetics side, and aesthetics is important for me
I didn't like the Steamroller at all, cause it has narrower tire clearence and only one bottlecage mount, which is critical for me, as I ride long brevets.
So between those three, Steamroller seems the least versatile to me; Nature boy is a great frameset, I just don't like how it looks; and Tutto matches all my requirements. Tutto also has front rack mounts on fork, which was quite important for me as well.
I use it for everyday commuting, usually on quite bad roads/cobbles/mixed terrain, for long rides/brevets, etc., and it's just perfect for it. Very versatile, strong, robust and convenient frameset, and I like it's look quite a lot as well.
Gonna write something just for those people who will get onto this forum topic while googling Tutto reviews. I own one for almost a year and I'm perfectly happy with it. I didn't know about Soma Rush when I was trying to choose a frameset, but even now, after checking it out, I prefer Tutto (at least for my purposes). The other options I was looking at the last year were Surly Steamroller and All-City Nature boy. I really liked the Nature boy, it has some large advantages over Tutto, like built-in chain tensioners and disc brakes compatibility, however it has sloping top tube, which I didn't like from the aesthetics side, and aesthetics is important for me
I didn't like the Steamroller at all, cause it has narrower tire clearence and only one bottlecage mount, which is critical for me, as I ride long brevets.
So between those three, Steamroller seems the least versatile to me; Nature boy is a great frameset, I just don't like how it looks; and Tutto matches all my requirements. Tutto also has front rack mounts on fork, which was quite important for me as well.
I use it for everyday commuting, usually on quite bad roads/cobbles/mixed terrain, for long rides/brevets, etc., and it's just perfect for it. Very versatile, strong, robust and convenient frameset, and I like it's look quite a lot as well.
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The "Prestige" tubing that Soma uses isn't the same as what what it was in the 90s. Current "Tange" is about as closely related as a Windsor is to the original.