Thrift Store Find Schwinn w/Campagnolo Group - Is This A Paramount?
03-13-20, 11:33 AM
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Thrift Store Find Schwinn w/Campagnolo Group - Is This A Paramount?
I found this at a local thrift store today. It has a Schwinn head badge & Campagnolo everything, but it's been painted & there is no model name; is this a Paramount?
Also, where is the serial number? I've looked but with the paint job I need to know where exactly to look - and I'm still not sure I'll be able to read it.
Finally, can someone tell me what Campagnolo model parts it has?
Thanks for any info; I appreciate it.
Also, where is the serial number? I've looked but with the paint job I need to know where exactly to look - and I'm still not sure I'll be able to read it.
Finally, can someone tell me what Campagnolo model parts it has?
Thanks for any info; I appreciate it.
03-13-20, 12:55 PM
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It looks like early to mid-80's, given the top tube cable guides. For the serial num, I would probably first check under the BB shell and on the rear dropouts (behind the skewer nuts). I'm no Schwinn expert, but even if it is not a Paramount, still looks like a good quality frame.
03-13-20, 01:02 PM
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It's not a Paramount wrong stay end tretment ,wrong fork crown. Groupset I think is 1988 - 1991 Chorus. Look for a serial number on the BB, bottom head lug or the left rear droupout. look carefuly at the headbadge there should be a 4 digit number stamped on it. It will tell you the year manufactured and the day. once you know that you can to the catalougs and narrow down the model.
03-13-20, 02:36 PM
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Here is head badge - number is 3576 (so it's a 1976?) - PLEASE tell me it's worth more than the $150 I paid while thinking it was a Paramount?!
Thanks for all the help.
Thanks for all the help.
03-13-20, 02:48 PM
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Good luck with sale.
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...I'm not a Schwinn expert in any way, shape, or form. But I've never seen a Schwinn production bicycle with a sloping fork crown like that.
For a long time those were typical of Italian manufacture, but they got used by some other people as well.
If I had to guess, maybe someone changed out the fork and then painted the whole frame to match.
You can probably sell those components for about what you paid for it. Not a Paramount for sure.
...I'm not a Schwinn expert in any way, shape, or form. But I've never seen a Schwinn production bicycle with a sloping fork crown like that.
For a long time those were typical of Italian manufacture, but they got used by some other people as well.
If I had to guess, maybe someone changed out the fork and then painted the whole frame to match.
You can probably sell those components for about what you paid for it. Not a Paramount for sure.
03-13-20, 04:23 PM
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There was another bike with the same paint job & Campagnolo group AND with stickers that said MINI on parts of frame and MINI Italy for the head badge - but I couldn't find anything on a vintage Italian road bike company named MINI? I would have bought that bike too but when they saw Italy they said the price was $500, so I passed & just bought this bike.
Could this bike be an Italian model? Photographing the head badge I saw the part holding the handlebar has a Cinelli label?
Thanks again for the help with this!
Could this bike be an Italian model? Photographing the head badge I saw the part holding the handlebar has a Cinelli label?
Thanks again for the help with this!
03-13-20, 04:30 PM
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...it's a very nice Cinelli stem, and has some value in and of itself.
In a declining price marketplace for older, vintage road bikes, you might want to reconsider buying them at thrifts stores with the hope of reselling them at profit.
Certainly you ought to avoid anything that has been less than skillfully repainted...it's a losing proposition.
That said, if I had a project bike I needed those parts for, I might have paid what you did for this bike. People like me might be your resale market demographic.
In a declining price marketplace for older, vintage road bikes, you might want to reconsider buying them at thrifts stores with the hope of reselling them at profit.
Certainly you ought to avoid anything that has been less than skillfully repainted...it's a losing proposition.
That said, if I had a project bike I needed those parts for, I might have paid what you did for this bike. People like me might be your resale market demographic.
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03-13-20, 05:23 PM
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I think this might have nailed it. I have an 86 and 87 Super Sport and a cursory pic comparison to yours looks like same lugs, fork crown, seat stay ends and pump peg. But my ‘89 Circuit also looks the same.
If a Super Sport, the Campy group probably replaced the original Shimano 600 rigging.
$150 an okay price to fix and keep. Probably a loser to flip and a small money maker to part out if not considering time, effort and elbow grease.
If a Super Sport, the Campy group probably replaced the original Shimano 600 rigging.
$150 an okay price to fix and keep. Probably a loser to flip and a small money maker to part out if not considering time, effort and elbow grease.
03-13-20, 05:56 PM
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The RD looks like one of those Chorus RD's that could be rotated from position A to position B, or, the other way. I've never seen one in person but have read about them recently. Apparently, it was part of Campagnolos coming to terms with new derailleur designs that looked too much like Shimano. With the Syncro shifters, there would be one of four little gear wheels that would be used. 6 and 7 speeds, A or B parallelogram position.
03-13-20, 11:31 PM
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That's it!
Thank you all!
PS - Here is a rat rod bike I also got from same thrift store - it is made with antique Ford parts!
Thank you all!
PS - Here is a rat rod bike I also got from same thrift store - it is made with antique Ford parts!
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Parted out, you might be able to recoup most, all or more of your investment, I'd think.
Some great parts to rebuild another project with some clean-up as well. Would make a nice rider....
Some great parts to rebuild another project with some clean-up as well. Would make a nice rider....
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03-14-20, 08:48 AM
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I would say get rid of those “little boy” gears and clean/tune it , ride the bike and enjoy it. Not a candidate for profit bike but a nice bike anyway if you ride a tall frame like me.
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Looks just like my 1987 Super Sport. Columbus tubing in smaller sizes kept them around 20 pounds. My 56 CM with pedals weights just under 22 pounds
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Or maybe...
