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Old 07-25-20, 11:08 PM
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always had this question on mountain bike components...

You'll see Shimano road bike components are ranked top to bottom thus: Dura Ace / Ultegra / 105.

Are there similar examples of mountain bike component rankings from top to bottom?
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Old 07-26-20, 12:40 AM
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For the standard lineup:

XTR
XT
SLX
Deore
...
https://bike.shimano.com/en-EU/components/mtb.html
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Old 07-26-20, 01:41 AM
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Thanks. So the XTRs are the Dura Ace of Shimano MB components. Does the XT and SLX fall in like the Ultegra and 105s? Or are the SLX' below what 105s are nicknamed - RE: bulletproof.

Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets
For the standard lineup:

XTR
XT
SLX
Deore
...
https://bike.shimano.com/en-EU/components/mtb.html
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Old 07-26-20, 07:20 AM
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Found this, which expands the descriptions a bit: https://www.choosemybicycle.com/en/w...nent-hierarchy
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Old 07-26-20, 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by freeranger
Found this, which expands the descriptions a bit: https://www.choosemybicycle.com/en/w...nent-hierarchy
Cool link Didn't realize they were DEORE XTR.
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Usually in the aftermarket you don’t see much Deore and XT is such a small up charge from SLX that XT is what most people buy.

In MTB world there is also a lot more competition due to Shimano’s conservative behavior. There are probably ten good brands of brakes and five of drivetrain. Shimano doesn’t compete in the suspension business either.
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For my last drivetrain upgrade I went with slx cassette, rear derailleur and crankset. They are cheaper then XT and weigh a little more. I actually really like the finish on my slx derailleur and crankset over XT.

I got an XT shifter because it has better quality features on the shift lever, like a grippy surface texture and the ability for two upshifts at once. It was maybe $20 more expensive then the SLX shifter? I also bought an XT chain, as it has the special siltec coating on the pins, lower versions don't.

I have Deore hydraulic brakes and levers that work fantastic, except I can't adjust the lever reach like you can with XT and maybe slx?
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A few years ago I figured I should check out 11sp since it had trickled down to SLX level. At that time the cassette was the only item I could get in XT for just a hair more than SLX, so I did so. SLX derailleur works great and has held up well. Kinda wish I'd splurged on XT shifters, as the SLX feels a little flimsier to me.
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Old 07-26-20, 11:03 AM
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When I was 13, it was easy if a little redundant.

100gs, 200gs, 300lx, 400lx, 500lx, DeoreLX, DeoreDX, DeoreXT, and finally, XTR.

DX turned red and downhill, then disappeared I think.

100-300 basically became Alivio.

400-500 became STX which later became Deore

LX stayed LX for a long time and I think actually went to SLX

XT and XTR stayed put but XT got a lot less racy and more toury for a while. Then back.

Anymore, both in weight and function, SLX and XT might as well be the same.
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They line up the same as the road groups. In fact, the different groupset levels in the hierarchy share chains:
  • CN-HG901 - "XTR / Dura Ace"
  • CN-HG701 - "Deore XT / Ultegra"
  • CN-HG601 - "SLX / 105"
And yes, in my mind, those groupset's positions in the hierarchy translate across disciplines as you'd expect, expect I think the jumps are a little bigger on the MTB side. I.e., 105s performance and weight is pretty close to Ultegra and Dura Ace, whereas the jump from SLX to XT and XTR is a little bigger. Component costs reflect that, too.
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SRAM is a little trickier I think, maybe it's all those X's:

NX
GX
X01
XX1

(I think)
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I thought it was like
Acera = Claris
Alivio = Sora
Deore = Tiagra
SLX = 105
XT = Ultegra

Shimano doesn't price things equally though. Claris, Sora and Tiagra I think are more expensive than Acera, Alivio and Deore.
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Then there are the gravity-specific lines: Zee = heavier, value; and Saint = Top of the line, more expensive.

I have actually ran a Zee derailleur with an Ultegra 10sp cassette on a commuter with 1x drivetrain. Excellent, excellent value, amazing shifting (short short short cage), and absolutely bulletproof. I recommend this combo and I am considering Zee brakes for my MTB
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Originally Posted by davei1980
Then there are the gravity-specific lines: Zee = heavier, value; and Saint = Top of the line, more expensive.

I have actually ran a Zee derailleur with an Ultegra 10sp cassette on a commuter with 1x drivetrain. Excellent, excellent value, amazing shifting (short short short cage), and absolutely bulletproof. I recommend this combo and I am considering Zee brakes for my MTB
And on the brake department at least, there are the non-series components, like the MT520 brakes (which by the way, are a relabeled Deore lever with 4 pot calipers).
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Originally Posted by Amt0571
And on the brake department at least, there are the non-series components, like the MT520 brakes (which by the way, are a relabeled Deore lever with 4 pot calipers).
Yes! I don't even understand SRAM's nomenclature on brakes yet! My LBS sold me a set of Level brakes, but I understand there are different levels of Levels ::eyeroll::
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