always had this question on mountain bike components...
#1
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: NV
Posts: 600
Bikes: 2021 Litespeed T5 105, 1990 Gios Compact Pro 105
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 167 Post(s)
Liked 325 Times
in
182 Posts
always had this question on mountain bike components...
You'll see Shimano road bike components are ranked top to bottom thus: Dura Ace / Ultegra / 105.
Are there similar examples of mountain bike component rankings from top to bottom?
Are there similar examples of mountain bike component rankings from top to bottom?
#2
cowboy, steel horse, etc
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: The hot spot.
Posts: 44,799
Bikes: everywhere
Mentioned: 71 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 12634 Post(s)
Liked 7,528 Times
in
3,989 Posts
Likes For LesterOfPuppets:
#3
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: NV
Posts: 600
Bikes: 2021 Litespeed T5 105, 1990 Gios Compact Pro 105
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 167 Post(s)
Liked 325 Times
in
182 Posts
Thanks. So the XTRs are the Dura Ace of Shimano MB components. Does the XT and SLX fall in like the Ultegra and 105s? Or are the SLX' below what 105s are nicknamed - RE: bulletproof.
#4
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Kentucky
Posts: 2,576
Bikes: 06 Lemond Reno, 98 GT Timberline mtn.bike
Mentioned: 7 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 418 Post(s)
Liked 688 Times
in
429 Posts
Found this, which expands the descriptions a bit: https://www.choosemybicycle.com/en/w...nent-hierarchy
Likes For freeranger:
#5
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: NV
Posts: 600
Bikes: 2021 Litespeed T5 105, 1990 Gios Compact Pro 105
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 167 Post(s)
Liked 325 Times
in
182 Posts
Found this, which expands the descriptions a bit: https://www.choosemybicycle.com/en/w...nent-hierarchy
#6
Disco Infiltrator
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Folsom CA
Posts: 13,775
Bikes: Stormchaser, Paramount, Tilt, Samba tandem
Mentioned: 72 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3126 Post(s)
Liked 2,102 Times
in
1,366 Posts
Usually in the aftermarket you don’t see much Deore and XT is such a small up charge from SLX that XT is what most people buy.
In MTB world there is also a lot more competition due to Shimano’s conservative behavior. There are probably ten good brands of brakes and five of drivetrain. Shimano doesn’t compete in the suspension business either.
In MTB world there is also a lot more competition due to Shimano’s conservative behavior. There are probably ten good brands of brakes and five of drivetrain. Shimano doesn’t compete in the suspension business either.
__________________
Genesis 49:16-17
Genesis 49:16-17
#7
Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: Central Io-way
Posts: 2,655
Bikes: LeMond Zurich, Giant Talon 29er
Mentioned: 17 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1218 Post(s)
Liked 609 Times
in
458 Posts
For my last drivetrain upgrade I went with slx cassette, rear derailleur and crankset. They are cheaper then XT and weigh a little more. I actually really like the finish on my slx derailleur and crankset over XT.
I got an XT shifter because it has better quality features on the shift lever, like a grippy surface texture and the ability for two upshifts at once. It was maybe $20 more expensive then the SLX shifter? I also bought an XT chain, as it has the special siltec coating on the pins, lower versions don't.
I have Deore hydraulic brakes and levers that work fantastic, except I can't adjust the lever reach like you can with XT and maybe slx?
I got an XT shifter because it has better quality features on the shift lever, like a grippy surface texture and the ability for two upshifts at once. It was maybe $20 more expensive then the SLX shifter? I also bought an XT chain, as it has the special siltec coating on the pins, lower versions don't.
I have Deore hydraulic brakes and levers that work fantastic, except I can't adjust the lever reach like you can with XT and maybe slx?
#8
cowboy, steel horse, etc
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: The hot spot.
Posts: 44,799
Bikes: everywhere
Mentioned: 71 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 12634 Post(s)
Liked 7,528 Times
in
3,989 Posts
A few years ago I figured I should check out 11sp since it had trickled down to SLX level. At that time the cassette was the only item I could get in XT for just a hair more than SLX, so I did so. SLX derailleur works great and has held up well. Kinda wish I'd splurged on XT shifters, as the SLX feels a little flimsier to me.
#9
With a mighty wind
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 2,554
Mentioned: 12 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1072 Post(s)
Liked 841 Times
in
475 Posts
When I was 13, it was easy if a little redundant.
100gs, 200gs, 300lx, 400lx, 500lx, DeoreLX, DeoreDX, DeoreXT, and finally, XTR.
DX turned red and downhill, then disappeared I think.
100-300 basically became Alivio.
400-500 became STX which later became Deore
LX stayed LX for a long time and I think actually went to SLX
XT and XTR stayed put but XT got a lot less racy and more toury for a while. Then back.
Anymore, both in weight and function, SLX and XT might as well be the same.
100gs, 200gs, 300lx, 400lx, 500lx, DeoreLX, DeoreDX, DeoreXT, and finally, XTR.
DX turned red and downhill, then disappeared I think.
100-300 basically became Alivio.
400-500 became STX which later became Deore
LX stayed LX for a long time and I think actually went to SLX
XT and XTR stayed put but XT got a lot less racy and more toury for a while. Then back.
Anymore, both in weight and function, SLX and XT might as well be the same.
#10
Senior Member
They line up the same as the road groups. In fact, the different groupset levels in the hierarchy share chains:
- CN-HG901 - "XTR / Dura Ace"
- CN-HG701 - "Deore XT / Ultegra"
- CN-HG601 - "SLX / 105"
#12
Very Slow Rider
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: E Wa
Posts: 1,274
Bikes: Jones Plus LWB, 1983 Centurion Japanese CrMo bike
Mentioned: 12 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 500 Post(s)
Liked 132 Times
in
101 Posts
SRAM is a little trickier I think, maybe it's all those X's:
NX
GX
X01
XX1
(I think)
NX
GX
X01
XX1
(I think)
#13
we be rollin'
I thought it was like
Acera = Claris
Alivio = Sora
Deore = Tiagra
SLX = 105
XT = Ultegra
Shimano doesn't price things equally though. Claris, Sora and Tiagra I think are more expensive than Acera, Alivio and Deore.
Acera = Claris
Alivio = Sora
Deore = Tiagra
SLX = 105
XT = Ultegra
Shimano doesn't price things equally though. Claris, Sora and Tiagra I think are more expensive than Acera, Alivio and Deore.
#14
Very Slow Rider
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: E Wa
Posts: 1,274
Bikes: Jones Plus LWB, 1983 Centurion Japanese CrMo bike
Mentioned: 12 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 500 Post(s)
Liked 132 Times
in
101 Posts
Then there are the gravity-specific lines: Zee = heavier, value; and Saint = Top of the line, more expensive.
I have actually ran a Zee derailleur with an Ultegra 10sp cassette on a commuter with 1x drivetrain. Excellent, excellent value, amazing shifting (short short short cage), and absolutely bulletproof. I recommend this combo and I am considering Zee brakes for my MTB
I have actually ran a Zee derailleur with an Ultegra 10sp cassette on a commuter with 1x drivetrain. Excellent, excellent value, amazing shifting (short short short cage), and absolutely bulletproof. I recommend this combo and I am considering Zee brakes for my MTB
#15
Senior Member
Then there are the gravity-specific lines: Zee = heavier, value; and Saint = Top of the line, more expensive.
I have actually ran a Zee derailleur with an Ultegra 10sp cassette on a commuter with 1x drivetrain. Excellent, excellent value, amazing shifting (short short short cage), and absolutely bulletproof. I recommend this combo and I am considering Zee brakes for my MTB
I have actually ran a Zee derailleur with an Ultegra 10sp cassette on a commuter with 1x drivetrain. Excellent, excellent value, amazing shifting (short short short cage), and absolutely bulletproof. I recommend this combo and I am considering Zee brakes for my MTB
#16
Very Slow Rider
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: E Wa
Posts: 1,274
Bikes: Jones Plus LWB, 1983 Centurion Japanese CrMo bike
Mentioned: 12 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 500 Post(s)
Liked 132 Times
in
101 Posts
Yes! I don't even understand SRAM's nomenclature on brakes yet! My LBS sold me a set of Level brakes, but I understand there are different levels of Levels ::eyeroll::