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Old 01-14-21, 01:26 PM
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My niece the doctor reports she got her second dose of COVID vaccine. Whew! She lives with her sister, who has health issues that would make it bad for her to get COVID.
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
I've been dealing with oil-based lubes with my winter riding on the Haanjo. Ugh. I don't know how anti-waxxers do it.
Chain wax causes autism! Do your research!
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Chain wax causes autism! Do your research!
I was going to go with "non-waxxers," but couldn't resist.
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
I was going to go with "non-waxxers," but couldn't resist.
I hear resistance is futile, anyway.
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
I was going to go with "non-waxxers," but couldn't resist.
As an aside, it's always funny when some antivaxxer says, "Do your research!", since for about 1/3 of my career, vaccine research was literally what I did.
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Snow has been coming down pretty good since late this morning - heavy, wet, slippery stuff. Not sure that the tires on the Haanjo are going to handle it well, but I think I'll still try. Why not - what's the worst that could happen?
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I really want to start doing that, but seems like it would be a bit annoying with multiple bikes, especially if they all have different chain lengths and sizes.

Maybe just on the SLT since it's the one that will probably get ridden the most next season and shows grime the easiest. Well, aside from the track bike. I haven't owned a white bike in years and I had forgotten how dirty they get
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Originally Posted by genejockey
Chain wax causes autism! Do your research!
That might explain a few things at our dinner table.

My wife insists that I wax.
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Originally Posted by abshipp


I really want to start doing that, but seems like it would be a bit annoying with multiple bikes, especially if they all have different chain lengths and sizes.

Maybe just on the SLT since it's the one that will probably get ridden the most next season and shows grime the easiest. Well, aside from the track bike. I haven't owned a white bike in years and I had forgotten how dirty they get
Not that much of a hassle. I do it for four bikes. I have rotating chains for the Domane since it is used the most.
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50° and sunny here. Went for a lovely walk by the river with LSS.
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Wax, hell. I don’t even clean my chains anymore.

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50° and sunny here. Went for a lovely walk by the river with LSS.
It’s warm here, but I’m stuck in my home office until dinner, then back here again around 8 until who knows
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Originally Posted by abshipp


I really want to start doing that, but seems like it would be a bit annoying with multiple bikes, especially if they all have different chain lengths and sizes.

Maybe just on the SLT since it's the one that will probably get ridden the most next season and shows grime the easiest. Well, aside from the track bike. I haven't owned a white bike in years and I had forgotten how dirty they get
Yeah, I'm only doing it with the Cervelo - for all of my kvetching about the caring for the chain on the Haanjo, I don't know how wax would hold up in the winter...

Anywho, yeah, multiple bikes might add some challenges... but I think it would be okay if you invest a little time in organization. Once the pot o' wax is up to temp, the chains don't need to stay in there that long - the temp might sag a bit when you pop in a cold chain, but I would think that 10 minutes would bring it back up; give it a good swish, hang it on a peg and drop in the next chain. Including the ~hour for the pot to heat up, you could probably take care of the fleet in an afternoon, with not much hands-on time. Actually, the bikes that don't see much saddle time might not even need to be serviced more than once a year or so.
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Sunny and 64 here, but very windy (30 mph+).

Sat at my desk, in a suit, all morning for a federal court hearing via WebEx. Fun times (or will be if my side wins)!
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My problem with waxing chains is the need for them to be perfectly clean to start, since chains these days come covered in sticky goo that attracts every single particle of dirt, and which doesn't want to come off in anything shy of nasty stuff.
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A friend on FB shared a post, asking "Who remembers their elementary school?", and people are straight up ANSWERING, as if this wasn't one of the most popular security questions for online banking and such. So, I pointed that out. Let's see if people stop posting their answers.

"Take our online quiz, and find out what your Social Security Number says about YOU!!!!"
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Originally Posted by genejockey
My problem with waxing chains is the need for them to be perfectly clean to start, since chains these days come covered in sticky goo that attracts every single particle of dirt, and which doesn't want to come off in anything shy of nasty stuff.

From what I've read, that sticky stuff on a new chain is basically a wax that will dissolve in the hot wax used to lube the chain. Nonetheless, a quick bath in mineral spirits cleans it off pretty good.
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My problem with waxing chains is the need for them to be perfectly clean to start, since chains these days come covered in sticky goo that attracts every single particle of dirt, and which doesn't want to come off in anything shy of nasty stuff.
The initial cleaning is definitely the worst part, but it's not that horrible and the ease afterwards more than makes up for it, IMO.

Then again, it may be that people in different regions have different kinds of drivetrain grime. For me, cleaning the crud that accumulates is teh horrible - dealing with that black, gritty, smudgy ****, all over my cassette, jockey wheels, chainrings, etc. Ick.
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I looked up Delano Park because that name rang a bell. Thea certainly was the place where I saw major leaguers play baseball. It rang a bell for a second reason as well. As a boat builder and sailor, I am interested in all things nautical. My reading in that area made me aware of the Delano side of the Roosevelt family. They were ship owners and merchants in the China trade and made scandalous amounts of money in a short period of time. That was the equivalent of a killer app of their day. The Delano side had a mansion south of Newburgh near Cornwall that burned down.
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The TT bike doesn't get ridden much, and it's clean, so popping the chain off and throwing it in the pot is nothing. Depending on which bike I ride, I keep track, and toss it in when it's time. As WhyFi said, the initial was the toughest part, but I did it in stages. The main bike and TT, and any wheelset I planned to use on each got the deep clean. Then all the other cassettes. Then either replaced chains, or cleaned them up on the other bikes. Soon, they were all compatible, and life is good.
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Originally Posted by Mojo31
Sunny and 64 here, but very windy (30 mph+).

Sat at my desk, in a suit, all morning for a federal court hearing via WebEx. Fun times (or will be if my side wins)!
Pants and everything?
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Originally Posted by bampilot06
Have we ruled out Datlas just buying a new bike? That should have been step number one.
That's crazy talk! The Habanero is only 12 years old.

Next thing, you will be telling me to get a new car to replace the 1998 Saturn.

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Originally Posted by MoAlpha
Pants and everything?
Pants, dress shoes, socks, belt, the whole enchilada.

Since Covid started, the number of times people come to my office or I go to their's or a courtroom can be counted in less than two hands. Everything is WebEx/Zoom, email or phone. And, we no longer go out to dinner or for entertainment, so I rarely, if ever, wear my dressier clothes. I was telling my wife this morning as I put on the suit that it's a shame that I have an entire closet of stuff that I simply don't have a place to wear it. The shoes I put on today, for example, haven't been worn in at least 8 months.
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That's crazy talk! The Habanero is only 12 years old.

Next thing, you will be telling me to get a new car to replace the 1998 Saturn.

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I hate to break it to you, but cars are not meant to be owned by the same individual for 23 years.
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In my state/county, they are still only doing phase 1A for the vaccine.

My sister, who lives in NJ, is a 1C patient but already has an appointment at her primary care doc's for the vaccine for Feb 15th. I honestly don't know how they can know they will have vaccines then but maybe they have a better planner in NJ than in PA where we physicians are still in the dark.
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