Troul 

If you were out riding your cycle bicycle (not to be assumed all are equal in this case) & were to go visit a relative or friend, would you be expected to not bring your bicycle inside the living space aka dwelling? If yes, would it be allowed somewhere within a closed access area (garage, basement, mudroom) that is out of any weather & not visible to the public?

For those that are frowned upon (rejected) to bringing in there cycle bicycle & have a dog, are you openly welcome to bring your pet indoors with you to those relatives & friends place of residence?
If you are allowed to bring in the animal, but not the cycle bicycle, why is it?
Is it because it was never discussed? Are they allergic to the object & not the animal? I'm not talking about bringing in a touring bicycle loaded down ready for the campsite or a kids huffy caked with mud, grease & baseball cards in the spokes, or a recumbent with the massive "high" viz pole that might catch a ceiling fan or utility line.

I think the former question isn't something often discussed amongst friends & family & should be vetted before it may pose any "uncomfortable" moments.

seypat

The jury's divided on that according to the Inside Hot Car thread.

Koyote

This doesn't seem hypothetical.

Why don't you just tell us about the specific argument you're having with someone, and we'll tell you what we think...?

blacknbluebikes 

This question seems very "situation-specific." Generally, people don't expect their guests to bring outdoor sporting equipment into the house with them. Not bikes, not skiis, not your skateboard, your hang-glider or your luge. Now, if the host is an enthusiast of the sport, that's obviously a different set of expectations. Dogs - I do not expect non-dog owners to welcome my dogs in their house. If I want to do that, I ask specifically in advance and really clarify that they genuinely want to extend that invitation - because the unexpected does happen. Most, but not all, of my friends' pets are welcome, but not for all events. Back to the bike question: my approach would be more like, "hey, I'd love to come in - but is there a secure place for me to put the bike?"

Troul 

You're assumption is not accurate.
I've not have any confrontations with another person. I find that being respectful to a point tends to not foster such confrontation.

Would you let others that visit you, bring in there cycle bicycle? If yes, do those that ride one clearly know they are allowed to do such?

Koyote

Then your original post is too long, too complicated, and involves too many qualifiers for anyone to answer easily and definitively.

The answer depends on the friend/relative/acquaintance, on the bike/dog in question, on the situation.

Iride01 

Situations can vary quite a bit. If your hypothetical is in an apartment building, then I'd be uncomfortable with it anywhere but inside the apartment with me. If they lived in the typical single-family residence around here, then I'd be okay leaving it on the porch or sidewalk to the door. Unless I was going to be away or overnight from that location.

I wouldn't care if it was frowned upon unless my friend verbally lets me know. Otherwise, many of us routinely frown upon the things even our best of friends do, but we put up with it... because we're friends! And especially we do that if they are family.

Troul 

I am understanding of that logic. With me being me, if you have your canoe with you & I know it's something you value with high regard, I'll be sure to inform you where it can be accommodated for secure storage. I'll try to make the effort to be first to open that line of communication as I know how awkward it can be to initiate it from the other side.

Could you imagine being someone not having any kids & your relative stops by with there baby. "um, yeah, that'll have to stay on the porch... thanks for understanding!"

Troul 

you're assuming I'm asking of others to answer for someone elses response to the question when I'm asking a rather direct question if it applies to someone that is relative to the question.

Not everyone has a dog nor does everyone have a cycle bicycle. Some have cats, recumbents, E-bikes, & trikes.


If it doesn't apply, need not to reply.

Troul 

I may not always be firing on all cylinders when thinking about such things that resemble the OP, however, I'm generally conscious about what my friends are into for hobbies. I honestly dont frown upon any of there choice hobbies, sometimes I like to know more about it while not trying to invade any privacy if that's a thing.
I "tolerate" family to a point, but if they have a wild animal or something, that isn't going to be tolerated at all. 2 way street.

genejockey 

I recently asked one of my sisters, who lives in the house where we grew up and which still serves as a "gathering place" for the family, if I could ship a bike to keep there, so if I come for a visit I can ride. She said, "Sure, there's room in the White Garage".

The thing is, the White Garage is generally not locked, easily accessible from the outside, etc. I had been thinking maybe somewhere in the rather large house.

People who don't ride, or who don't ride bikes that cost North of $1000, don't see bikes the same as those of us who do.

Also worth noting here - most commercial landlords don't want bicycles inside the building, either. Our new landlord has "secure bicycle storage" - a fenced area in the parking garage with a padlock on the gate and bike racks you can lock your bike to. Okay for commuter bikes, but I'm damned if I'm going to put one of my road bikes in there. So it's the trunk for me!

Troul 

Wonder if the insurance they carry, covers tenants in the event of a bicycle being damaged or stolen? If it does, what is the capped value? Required documentation?

If a landlord can afford to legally cover a tenants $1K+ bicycle, & provides storage that is out of the elements, then I can reason a lease agreement to not allow it being stored inside the dwelling.

genejockey 

They accept no liability for bikes parked in the cage, nor cars in the parking garage. The usual "Don't leave valuables!" thing.

The place is only 2 miles from my house, though, so I think I'll probably commute by bike some days, but not on anything nice. I have a 29 year old Cannondale Hybrid I can refurb for commuting - which is why I originally bought it, BITD.

veganbikes

I am not street parking my luge.

Eric F 

For me, it comes down to this...If I'm not allowed to put my bike in a place where I feel it will be secure, I'm not hanging around. I will come by another time without a bike.

Likewise with my dogs. I'm not going to bring them along for a visit to someone else's house unless I know if it's okay for the dogs to be in their house, or in a secure yard.

Iride01 

So now we are including wild animals and only considering friends that have the same hobbies?

Still, for me it depends on whether this is a apartment building type setting or a single-family residential type place in a suburban environment.

Smile... I'm just jousting with you in a friendly way.

indyfabz

+1.

Whatever happened to simply asking? “When I stop by, is it ok if I bring….?” I always let people bring their bikes into my small house. Dogs? Probably not, because my giant cat might kick its butt.

There isn’t always an app for all life situations.

veganbikes

There actually is:
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/ifart-...pp/id293760823

Also available for Google phones:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...hl=en_US&gl=US

urbanknight

People can be weird about bikes. Some people are understanding and accommodating, others think of them as toys that cost $100 and just get you to your friend’s house down the street. They might not be aware of the cost and commitment. Some people are worried about the tires tracking in dirt or the drivetrain dropping grease/oil. If I were to stay at someone’s place and wanted to bring my bike, I would make a point to ask “Do you have some place safe for me to store my bike?” I would also listen for any hint of hesitation and make sure they know it’s not a big deal if they can’t accommodate it. The only exception I can think of is when I’m staying with a fellow cyclist. Imagine a cabin with 4 bikes leaning against the walls, or a garage with the classic car moved to the street to accommodate the whole team’s stable for the weekend.

As funny as that sounds, my aunt had no children and married a lawyer. Any time we visited as young children, they moved the fancy and dangerous stuff and locked certain doors, and my parents were cautious with us and where we ate. Hosting people with different lifestyles does take some logic and planning.

livedarklions

Not sure how the baby analogizes to the bike, but I seem to recall not being able to take my toddlers to some people's homes because stairs or something made the place impossible to baby-proof, and the visit would just be too nerve-racking for all concerned.

As far as the bike goes, this differs from other "sports equipment" in that it is the transportation I used to get to the home. I think this is definitely analogous to asking someone where I can park my car when visiting. Alas, there are places I don't visit because there literally is no place to park or safely secure a bike.

This is a completely situation-specific kind of question.

If I'm credit card camping, I do make a point of checking whether there's somewhere to secure my bike at the hotel or AirBnB when I reserve.

SurferRosa

If they don't have room for the bike, they don't have room for me.

But they always have room for the bike. ​​​​​

bikemig 

I park the bike I ride in my home because a home without a bike inside isn't quite right, IMO.

I'd never bring one in to someone else's home without asking but when I ride to a friend's home, I bring a lock up bike and lock it up outside.

GhostRider62

Only if the chain is waxed and the dog is muzzled.

79pmooney

My take? Each person's home is is or her castle. It isn't up to me what is allowed inside. (In establishing that "castle", that person will have to deal with a landlord or neighborhood restrictions or mortgage company, etc. None of that is my business.) Honoring the rules of that castle is my obligation just like I expect others to honor mine. Calling ahead and asking about bike parking just isn't that hard. Don't have a bike you can safely park outside there? Well, we make our choices and get to live with them.

Germany_chris

My house, my rules

If you stop by my place bring the bike in lets talk