How to make bike flat?
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How to make bike flat?
When I put my bike in the car, I take off the front wheel and I turn the handlebars 90 degrees so everything is nice and flat. Then I throw a moving blanket over it and load my kids' bikes on top. With my son's new bike, it is bigger and more awkward to load. I would like to get his flat too, but he doesn't have the quick release. Can I unbolt his front wheel? Can I loosen the handlebars and make the bike flat that way? Or should I try to not futz with it? I'd prefer to not spend $1000 to install a hitch and rack.
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Depending upon your vehicle, there may be other options instead of installing a receiver and tow hitch type rack.
For 2 bikes in a sedan, a truck mount carrier can work well or is you have a roof rack, bike carriers could be added.
For 2 bikes in a sedan, a truck mount carrier can work well or is you have a roof rack, bike carriers could be added.
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Ditto the above. If I really need the room, I'll also remove pedals. (Be sure to have a pedal wrench at your destination.)
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Short answer is yes, you can unbolt wheels and handlebars then readjust them every time you go riding, then a second time to get home.
Trunk mounted bike carriers have a lot of issues. Mainly they take effort to install and prevent access to the trunk, but most importantly you risk damaging your car. The more weight you put on them the greater the chance of them failing.
I bought a receiver hitch and 3 bike rack for $250 total. Prices have gone up since then, but IMO still the best option. Look for a hitch from Curt manufacturing and rack from Allen Sports. The combo I have is still just a bit over $300. They are not hard to install and come with vehicle specific directions. If you don't feel comfortable doing that, check out a price with a local muffler shop first.
I carry the rack in my trunk, takes 10-15 minutes to install and load all the bikes. Have used this set up for many years now, never an issue.
As an added bonus I have used the bike rack to transport things like folding ladders. Buy a $50 receiver hitch tray at Walmart and use that to carry trash, a cooler, or bags of mulch without getting the inside of your car dirty. for extra credit even a Mazda 3 will tow a small utility trailer that folds up inside your garage....just saying.
Trunk mounted bike carriers have a lot of issues. Mainly they take effort to install and prevent access to the trunk, but most importantly you risk damaging your car. The more weight you put on them the greater the chance of them failing.
I bought a receiver hitch and 3 bike rack for $250 total. Prices have gone up since then, but IMO still the best option. Look for a hitch from Curt manufacturing and rack from Allen Sports. The combo I have is still just a bit over $300. They are not hard to install and come with vehicle specific directions. If you don't feel comfortable doing that, check out a price with a local muffler shop first.
I carry the rack in my trunk, takes 10-15 minutes to install and load all the bikes. Have used this set up for many years now, never an issue.
As an added bonus I have used the bike rack to transport things like folding ladders. Buy a $50 receiver hitch tray at Walmart and use that to carry trash, a cooler, or bags of mulch without getting the inside of your car dirty. for extra credit even a Mazda 3 will tow a small utility trailer that folds up inside your garage....just saying.
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Pack a little tool box with a crescent wrench, a couple of screw drivers and a pair of pliers and maybe a folding .Allen key set.
That'll put you miles ahead.
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This right here. I'll be riding in the park and someone doesn't have an Allen wrench or a crescent. Invariably they need a simple tool.
Pack a little tool box with a crescent wrench, a couple of screw drivers and a pair of pliers and maybe a folding .Allen key set.
That'll put you miles ahead.
Pack a little tool box with a crescent wrench, a couple of screw drivers and a pair of pliers and maybe a folding .Allen key set.
That'll put you miles ahead.
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Short answer is yes, you can unbolt wheels and handlebars then readjust them every time you go riding, then a second time to get home.
Trunk mounted bike carriers have a lot of issues. Mainly they take effort to install and prevent access to the trunk, but most importantly you risk damaging your car. The more weight you put on them the greater the chance of them failing.
I bought a receiver hitch and 3 bike rack for $250 total. Prices have gone up since then, but IMO still the best option. Look for a hitch from Curt manufacturing and rack from Allen Sports. The combo I have is still just a bit over $300. They are not hard to install and come with vehicle specific directions. If you don't feel comfortable doing that, check out a price with a local muffler shop first.
I carry the rack in my trunk, takes 10-15 minutes to install and load all the bikes. Have used this set up for many years now, never an issue.
As an added bonus I have used the bike rack to transport things like folding ladders. Buy a $50 receiver hitch tray at Walmart and use that to carry trash, a cooler, or bags of mulch without getting the inside of your car dirty. for extra credit even a Mazda 3 will tow a small utility trailer that folds up inside your garage....just saying.
Trunk mounted bike carriers have a lot of issues. Mainly they take effort to install and prevent access to the trunk, but most importantly you risk damaging your car. The more weight you put on them the greater the chance of them failing.
I bought a receiver hitch and 3 bike rack for $250 total. Prices have gone up since then, but IMO still the best option. Look for a hitch from Curt manufacturing and rack from Allen Sports. The combo I have is still just a bit over $300. They are not hard to install and come with vehicle specific directions. If you don't feel comfortable doing that, check out a price with a local muffler shop first.
I carry the rack in my trunk, takes 10-15 minutes to install and load all the bikes. Have used this set up for many years now, never an issue.
As an added bonus I have used the bike rack to transport things like folding ladders. Buy a $50 receiver hitch tray at Walmart and use that to carry trash, a cooler, or bags of mulch without getting the inside of your car dirty. for extra credit even a Mazda 3 will tow a small utility trailer that folds up inside your garage....just saying.
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I concur with the bike rack suggestions above. Especially since you have an SUV. There are multi-bike racks, that hook/strap onto the back hatch you can buy (new) for less than $100 (U.S.). I have one I use when traveling, and leave it on the vehicle once we arrive our destination and take the bike(s) off. It’s not obtrusive to drive around with.
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If you have to ask if you can unbolt the front wheel I would say you probably shouldn't.
Break down get yourself a rack and/or hitch if needed. I think you will be much happier with the ease in spite of the cost.
Break down get yourself a rack and/or hitch if needed. I think you will be much happier with the ease in spite of the cost.
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I have used both strap-on bike carriers and hitch racks. For anything more than one fairly light bike, strap-ons are shaky and can damage the car. A good hitch is worth the cost and can do more than just take a bike rack. I just had a Draw-Tite hitch installed on my Subaru Crosstrak for just over $200 (it was significantly less costly than a Curt hitch) and amazon sells several serviceable hitch racks at reasonable cost.
However, to answer your original question, sure, unbolt the front wheel and lay it flat. Just bring the needed wrench with you.
However, to answer your original question, sure, unbolt the front wheel and lay it flat. Just bring the needed wrench with you.
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My Outback is big enough to put a bike in without removing/loosening anything(2 bikes if I try really hard), but it's a pain. I like that I can do it in those rare cases when I need to go into a restaurant or whatever and won't be able to park right in front, but that's the only time I ever hassle w that. Bikes just don't like to down. They move around if you don't take steps to secure them, components get tweaked, your car gets dirty or scratched up on the inside, etc.
The Curt tow hitch I got at U-Haul came to about $225 w installation. Totally worth it. Then there's tons of rack options out there. I swear by my OG 1 UP USA but I realize they're not the cheapest. A great investment though--indestructible. There are probably used options out there too.
The Curt tow hitch I got at U-Haul came to about $225 w installation. Totally worth it. Then there's tons of rack options out there. I swear by my OG 1 UP USA but I realize they're not the cheapest. A great investment though--indestructible. There are probably used options out there too.
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When I put my bike in the car, I take off the front wheel and I turn the handlebars 90 degrees so everything is nice and flat. Then I throw a moving blanket over it and load my kids' bikes on top. With my son's new bike, it is bigger and more awkward to load. I would like to get his flat too, but he doesn't have the quick release. Can I unbolt his front wheel? Can I loosen the handlebars and make the bike flat that way? Or should I try to not futz with it? I'd prefer to not spend $1000 to install a hitch and rack.
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Got a hitch receiver and rack a few years ago and now wish I'd done it way sooner. The hitch was just over $100 and I installed it myself in less than 45 minutes. The rack, that will depend on your preferences, but I got mine used for under $300.
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If it has a threadless headset you'd need to adjust it every time you loosened the handlebar, unless you fit a clamp to hold it in place. If it's a quill stem then easier to loosen and turn that than taking the wheel out. If you're comfortable fitting a quick release wheel then a nutted axle is no problem, although you might want to upgrade to good quality track nuts to make it easier - you should be carrying the tools needed to remove wheels anyway, for fixing punctures. I have a cheap tailgate carrier, it doesn't take long to fit or remove and is fine for chucking on a bike or two if you're not too worried about a bit of cosmetic damage to bike and possibly car - with care and extra padding (pipe insulation and duct tape) you can reduce risk of damage . For e-bikes I have a towball rack bought used on eBay that is more secure but more hassle. Both racks let me open the tailgate. Trikes go on roof bars with ratchet straps, not a great solution for high speed long distance or parking structures but handy otherwise. Then there's trailers ...
Excellent point about how pulling the wheel is no different from getting a flat. Great answer in general. 👍
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That's the threadless headset mentioned above that will need fine-tuning if you loosen the stem clamp bolts. The bolt in the center of the cap is the adjusting screw. It's something you should learn to do--check the Park Tool website for a video. If you've already turned those bars, chances are the headset is too loose now and that can cause early bearing failure as well as some ride issues. You will need a stand or a way to hold the front wheel off the ground to adjust, and it's easier and more accurate with the wheel removed.
It's not carbon, so don't worry a lot about the torque. 5-6 N-m is only about 4 ft-lbs, so picture lifting a 4-pound weight and apply that force to a 12" wrench, or double that on a 6" wrench, etc. Simple physics, close enough, probably what most experienced mechanics do on metal parts.
It's not carbon, so don't worry a lot about the torque. 5-6 N-m is only about 4 ft-lbs, so picture lifting a 4-pound weight and apply that force to a 12" wrench, or double that on a 6" wrench, etc. Simple physics, close enough, probably what most experienced mechanics do on metal parts.
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Yes, but if his bike has hydraulic disc brakes, you best insert the OEM spacer in the disc brake caliper as soon as you remove the front wheel. Otherwise, if the brake lever is accidentally pulled during transportation with the wheel (and disc rotor) out, the pistons may not retract properly.
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I concur with the bike rack suggestions above. Especially since you have an SUV. There are multi-bike racks, that hook/strap onto the back hatch you can buy (new) for less than $100 (U.S.). I have one I use when traveling, and leave it on the vehicle once we arrive our destination and take the bike(s) off. It’s not obtrusive to drive around with.
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A couple of my bikes have nutted front axles. Removing / replacing the wheel is no big deal. Nor is keeping a little wrench in my saddle bag.
Naturally this should only be done by someone who is qualified to do it, but the same is true of quick release.
Naturally this should only be done by someone who is qualified to do it, but the same is true of quick release.
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lots of variation on hitch racks, those you hang the bike by the top tube are less expensive than those hold the bike by the tires
I would not put a carbon bike on hang on the top tube type and some manufacturers warn agains doing that.
as alwasy you get what you pay for, if you put bikes in once a year just through them then back, but otherwise agood rack amortizes over 20 years of aggravation
I would not put a carbon bike on hang on the top tube type and some manufacturers warn agains doing that.
as alwasy you get what you pay for, if you put bikes in once a year just through them then back, but otherwise agood rack amortizes over 20 years of aggravation
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Drove the family in a minivan cross country. Installed a receiver hitch on the van just for that one trip so I could take a single bike. Started out with a huge duffle bag on the roof rack. After a half day of listening to that flap in the breeze if finally started coming loose. Rather than strap it back to the roof I put it on top of the out stretched arms of the bike rack. Absolutely perfect, no more noise. Drove through a rainstorm and the bag never got wet.
The other advantage of a hitch mounted rack is it blocks photos of your rear plates. That came in handy driving around Miami.
The other advantage of a hitch mounted rack is it blocks photos of your rear plates. That came in handy driving around Miami.