"Slow street" proposals as a result of COVID
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"Slow street" proposals as a result of COVID
On the west coast I am seeing a few cities proposing closing streets, or dramatically slowing the speeds on streets (with barriers) to encourage walking and cycling. Another stated benefit is along streets with restaurants, to permit restaurants to place tables outside, further apart.
Overall, this means slowing and reducing motor traffic in certain areas... and as I mentioned, encouraging cycling.
Are you seeing any such "slow street proposals" in areas other than the west coast? Seattle Forrest mentioned seeing this in Seattle, I am seeing such proposals in San Diego. I wonder if there is any way to incorporate these proposals in a more permanent way. In San Diego, "seeing this in European cities" was mentioned as an example of what is desirable.
Of course, this also means that cyclists cannot ride through such areas at top racing speed... which no doubt, some will find discouraging. Speed limits being discussed for the "slow streets" are at 15MPH.
Overall, this means slowing and reducing motor traffic in certain areas... and as I mentioned, encouraging cycling.
Are you seeing any such "slow street proposals" in areas other than the west coast? Seattle Forrest mentioned seeing this in Seattle, I am seeing such proposals in San Diego. I wonder if there is any way to incorporate these proposals in a more permanent way. In San Diego, "seeing this in European cities" was mentioned as an example of what is desirable.
Of course, this also means that cyclists cannot ride through such areas at top racing speed... which no doubt, some will find discouraging. Speed limits being discussed for the "slow streets" are at 15MPH.
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The problem is people have huge commutes to places like the bay area since no one who is lower middle class can afford to live there, the powers that be are just deluded about reality. In other cities it's a little different but these are mainly the ones pushing this kind of thing.
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I'd like to see that around here. The communities in the North Salt Lake (around Hill AFB) are all really quite good when it comes to infrastructure. Lots of wide (full 8-12 ft) bike lanes, MUPs, sharrows with lots of signs saying bikes may use full lane. And while the drivers are better than a lot of places I've lived, there are still a lot of people with terrible attitudes towards bikes.
Making them slow a little and putting other restrictions in might help with the safety. It probably won't help with their attitudes, though.
I can only think of a few places where they might implement a slow streets program here though, without major infrastructure work.
Making them slow a little and putting other restrictions in might help with the safety. It probably won't help with their attitudes, though.
I can only think of a few places where they might implement a slow streets program here though, without major infrastructure work.
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The problem is people have huge commutes to places like the bay area since no one who is lower middle class can afford to live there, the powers that be are just deluded about reality. In other cities it's a little different but these are mainly the ones pushing this kind of thing.
And bear in mind, these "slow sreets" are for areas of high density (which I failed to mention) and thus may not effect longer distance commuters. Of course, it may, if the commute is right across the downtown area.
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Do you commute at speeds vastly over 15mph? I always found my commute speed to be about 17mph average.
And bear in mind, these "slow sreets" are for areas of high density (which I failed to mention) and thus may not effect longer distance commuters. Of course, it may, if the commute is right across the downtown area.
And bear in mind, these "slow sreets" are for areas of high density (which I failed to mention) and thus may not effect longer distance commuters. Of course, it may, if the commute is right across the downtown area.
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There is a popular area in my city called Bayshore. It is a balustrade sidewalk bordering the bay that goes on for about 5 miles and links to a new downtown river walk. Essentially it is a MUP and used daily by cyclist, runners and walkers. There is also a 4 lane road that runs along side it. Not sure if it has anything to do with the virus, but recently, there have been some pretty horrible accidents and deaths caused by motor vehicles. I saw on the news they are thinking of closing the water side of the road way and making it a non vehicle path. That would be really great if they did.
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Do you commute at speeds vastly over 15mph? I always found my commute speed to be about 17mph average.
And bear in mind, these "slow sreets" are for areas of high density (which I failed to mention) and thus may not effect longer distance commuters. Of course, it may, if the commute is right across the downtown area.
And bear in mind, these "slow sreets" are for areas of high density (which I failed to mention) and thus may not effect longer distance commuters. Of course, it may, if the commute is right across the downtown area.
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NACTO has come out with a manual for redesigning streets for COVID-19 safety: https://usa.streetsblog.org/2020/05/...ting-covid-19/
It looks pretty good to me.
It looks pretty good to me.
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I notice seen Covid-19 the car drivers are driving crazy and really dangerous.
I guess most of the people are anxious and worried and it's been reflected in the driving.
Find it dangerous to ride on roads now
I guess most of the people are anxious and worried and it's been reflected in the driving.
Find it dangerous to ride on roads now
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On the west coast I am seeing a few cities proposing closing streets, or dramatically slowing the speeds on streets (with barriers) to encourage walking and cycling. Another stated benefit is along streets with restaurants, to permit restaurants to place tables outside, further apart.
Overall, this means slowing and reducing motor traffic in certain areas... and as I mentioned, encouraging cycling.
Are you seeing any such "slow street proposals" in areas other than the west coast? Seattle Forrest mentioned seeing this in Seattle, I am seeing such proposals in San Diego. I wonder if there is any way to incorporate these proposals in a more permanent way. In San Diego, "seeing this in European cities" was mentioned as an example of what is desirable.
Of course, this also means that cyclists cannot ride through such areas at top racing speed... which no doubt, some will find discouraging. Speed limits being discussed for the "slow streets" are at 15MPH.
Overall, this means slowing and reducing motor traffic in certain areas... and as I mentioned, encouraging cycling.
Are you seeing any such "slow street proposals" in areas other than the west coast? Seattle Forrest mentioned seeing this in Seattle, I am seeing such proposals in San Diego. I wonder if there is any way to incorporate these proposals in a more permanent way. In San Diego, "seeing this in European cities" was mentioned as an example of what is desirable.
Of course, this also means that cyclists cannot ride through such areas at top racing speed... which no doubt, some will find discouraging. Speed limits being discussed for the "slow streets" are at 15MPH.
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There is the problem of local parking though, and the potential of fewer visitors to local businesses... but I see more pedestrians visiting businesses... so I wonder if there is any offset. Typical cars carry one or two people (I know, CAN carry more, but often do not) so a lot of space is given to empty cars that could serve pedestrians. Cities waste quite a bit of space "storing cars." Parking structures are vastly more efficient, and streets themselves could be more open to people.
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