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Old 02-15-18, 09:09 PM
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Fattest 26"/559 slick under 500 grams...

So far my search has turned up the folding Schwalbe Kojaks 26x2.00 (50-559) at 460 grams (1.01lbs). Any others?
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For a commuter I usually care more about flat resistance. You can get a Schwalbe Marathon Supreme for about that weight with actual puncture protection.
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Rat Trap Pass. 2.3 and 418. Even the cheap one is less than 500 at 454.
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Originally Posted by Darth_Firebolt
For a commuter I usually care more about flat resistance. You can get a Schwalbe Marathon Supreme for about that weight with actual puncture protection.
This thread is not about what you care, but rather about what i am looking for. Your input is of no use.
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Useful, on-topic.

Thanks.

Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets
Rat Trap Pass. 2.3 and 418. Even the cheap one is less than 500 at 454.
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Originally Posted by Abu Mahendra
Your input is of no use.
I literally answered your question. But keep buying the Kojak. It's not like it's a bad tire in every respect when compared to other lighter, faster, more flat resistant tires. I'll keep my useless input to myself.
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Originally Posted by Abu Mahendra
This thread is not about what you care, but rather about what i am looking for. Your input is of no use.
Seriously harsh given that the poster gave you some good advice. You might actually want to reread what he wrote.
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Look...

1. I know plenty about Marathon Supremes. In fact, i have them installed on both 406 and 622 wheels, and I've got spares. Here...


Schwalbe Marathon Supreme 622 folding




Schwalbe Marathon Supreme 406 folding



You are preaching to an apostle of Marathon Supremes.

2. There is no 26" Marathon Supreme that is both as wide and as light as Kojaks.

3. For this particular application I don't need or want Marathon Supreme level puncture resistance, weight or price.

So, yes, useless.


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I literally answered your question. But keep buying the Kojak. It's not like it's a bad tire in every respect when compared to other lighter, faster, more flat resistant tires. I'll keep my useless input to myself.

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Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets
Rat Trap Pass. 2.3 and 418. Even the cheap one is less than 500 at 454.
Not gonna beat this. 54-559 at 454g (std.) or 418g (Extralight.) And tubeless compatible, which is probably a bonus, as a typical 26x1.95 tube is ~200g, and lightweights will be ~160g, but with no flat protection whatsoever.
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Originally Posted by Abu Mahendra
So, yes, useless. And presumptuous.
Not presumptuous at all, given that you posted this topic in the Commuting subforum. If you want purely technical answers, post the topic in General, or better yet, Mechanics.
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You're right, but...

...i am not keen on the prices.

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Not gonna beat this. 54-559 at 454g (std.) or 418g (Extralight.) And tubeless compatible, which is probably a bonus, as a typical 26x1.95 tube is ~200g, and lightweights will be ~160g, but with no flat protection whatsoever.
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You never mentioned a price limit/range, so that's your own fault. You said, "fattest slick under 500g." And the Rat Trap Pass is that. What it costs is inconsequential and changes nothing. The Kojak is narrower, heavier, and cheaper. If you buy Kojaks, you're compromising your own requirements.
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Right. I was just making a personal comment. You are in the right, and I am still not keen about the pricing. Our respective positions are not mutually exclusive. You will note that i thanked the person who originally suggested it, and noted it as useful. But i am still not keen on the pricing.

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You never mentioned a price limit/range, so that's your own fault. You said, "fattest slick under 500g." And the Rat Trap Pass is that. What it costs is inconsequential and changes nothing. The Kojak is narrower, heavier, and cheaper. If you buy Kojaks, you're compromising your own requirements.
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Not completely slick, but light. Maxxlite | Maxxis Tires USA
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Originally Posted by Abu Mahendra
This thread is not about what you care, but rather about what i am looking for. Your input is of no use.
I have some 559 Kojaks and could talk to you about them, but for some reason I don't want to.
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No worries, mate...

I've ridden Kojaks before, so your sulking is no big loss for me. Cheers.


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I have some 559 Kojaks and could talk to you about them, but for some reason I don't want to.

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Schwalbe Marathon Racer are very good - if not even faster than Kojak's (to my surprise, since they do have some thread, not entirely slick). If memory serves me, they were a bit lighter as well for similar size (correct me if I'm wrong).
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I thought this was a contest. What do I win?
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I thought this was a contest. What do I win?
He didn't say anything snide to you. I think that's the prize.
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Originally Posted by bikemig
Seriously harsh given that the poster gave you some good advice. You might actually want to reread what he wrote.
While the OP's English is good, his stated location is in a country where English is not the predominant language, so I would guess that English is not his native tongue, or at least not a western dialect, and especially not one from North America. I'd be inclined to cut him some slack as to phraseology, word choice and therefore tone. Even when posters and readers have the same language background and dialect some subtleties are lost in print, like sarcasm.

Also, the member information sidebar that contains the optional list of bikes, locations, "member since" etc. does not accompany the post in the mobile version of the forum.
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I've looked. The Kojak or the compass seem to be the best bet.

Most companies seem to be dropping 26" tires in favor of 27.5 and 29" tires. What is left are some pretty generic, basic, and cheap 26" tires...
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Yeap. Compass is too dear, and Kojak sidewalls, too thin.

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I've looked. The Kojak or the compass seem to be the best bet.

Most companies seem to be dropping 26" tires in favor of 27.5 and 29" tires. What is left are some pretty generic, basic, and cheap 26" tires...
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